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Post by exophobe on Apr 13, 2015 14:41:04 GMT -6
But then you'd have a pair of white jeans. The indigo ones are non selvage/selvedge/fancy pants. And ain't nobody got time for non-fancy-pants. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 14:41:58 GMT -6
Well SE charges some batty prices. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 14:43:57 GMT -6
The Naturals are selvedge. Not sure about the other one. But then you'd have a pair of white jeans. The indigo ones are non selvage/selvedge/fancy pants. I love my Naturals. I'm going to grab another pair if Gustin drops them again. It's also the only Cones I own. |
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Post by exophobe on Apr 13, 2015 15:47:09 GMT -6
I love my Naturals. I'm going to grab another pair if Gustin drops them again. It's also the only Cones I own. Did you consider the Taylor Stitch while they were running their workshop campaign with this denim? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 15:58:01 GMT -6
I love my Naturals. I'm going to grab another pair if Gustin drops them again. It's also the only Cones I own. Did you consider the Taylor Stitch while they were running their workshop campaign with this denim? I did, but they had 36" inseams regardless of the waist. I don't mind 34" like Gustin does on their smaller waist sizes. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 18:23:31 GMT -6
I'm with ickes on this. I've got G American Sixteeners "gold" line Cone denim. I've got to say, I have almost come full circle as far as what I like. I grew up in 501s in the late '70's through mid 80's and loved the way they looked when they were beat to shit. My Sixteeners are already going that way, early stages anyway, they fade the same way as old 501s and I think they have a really cool overall aesthetic. For a while I was obsessed with ultra high contrast, electric blue fades. I still like the high contrast Japanese fades but I'll be honest, I like my Sixteeners just as much as I like my Onis, PBJ's etc, just for different reasons. All the sick slubs and kick ass textured of the Japanese brands are awesome for sure, but sometimes I'm in the mood for low key. There is something "right" about a good pair of Cone jeans that have had a little low wash frequency, hard work put into them, they are sort of so classic looking that you don't notice them on their own, but the overall effect with some cool shoes or trainers and a t shirt is absolutely classic. Sometimes the Japanese jeans are so "look at my f!@king electric blue whiskers and honeycombs...drink them in...you can not look away" that it's more like the jeans are the center of the show. Kind of begs the question; are you wearing the jeans or are the jeans wearing you? I know some of the blander Cone based brands are not so interesting, but I'd put a pair of Railcars in the league of any Japanese brand. My G's are nothing special on the interest scale, but they just look "right" in the same way a classic motorcycle or aircraft looks right. As for the cost of Cone or non Cone, we are all goddamn insane, you guys. Just admit that and move on  |
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Post by brentkuz on Apr 13, 2015 20:20:18 GMT -6
After a quick look at my jeans my only Cone denim is my Pima fire denim....those are pretty cool.
Also Cone gave up the blueXBlack which is also pretty unique.
The american 16er looked to have some character as well.
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Post by brentkuz on Apr 13, 2015 20:22:09 GMT -6
@stevekas - my jeans wore me once. I'm pretty unique tho like a slubby Oni. It worked.
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Post by exophobe on Apr 13, 2015 21:04:52 GMT -6
After a quick look at my jeans my only Cone denim is my Pima fire denim....those are pretty cool. Also Cone gave up the blueXBlack which is also pretty unique. The american 16er looked to have some character as well. Pima fire I've documented my dislike of, still super-soft, maybe some day I'll find a way to like them. Blue x black I'm not a fan of, mostly due to the stubborn refusal to fade. certainly not a "bad" denim, though. I love my sixteeners, though, definitely one of my favorites. I'd like to see them doing more in the 16-18 oz apparent sweet spot. Cone also wouldn't discourage me from a pair of Roy jeans, especially since he has them do custom runs. |
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Post by davelewis on Apr 13, 2015 21:46:09 GMT -6
You have to think that Cone denim can't be that bad, when an old pair of Levi's show up for sale, and people are willing to pay $5000 plus.
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Post by unnamed on Apr 13, 2015 22:41:06 GMT -6
Really old Levis used to be made from extra long staple cotton or so I’ve surmised by reading some articles about Japanese denim gurus loving the silky texture of old Levis and finding Zimbabwe cotton similar in feel hence the use. New cone denim is made almost exclusively with run of the mill upland cotton using cheap dyeing techniques. That said it’s much better than most of the stuff at the local mall and it’s American made which is exceedingly rare and wonderful. For these reasons (and a couple others) I would find it hard to ever discourage anyone buying cone, but there is just something irresistible about super soft, super heavy, extra long staple Japanese denim.  |
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Post by brentkuz on Apr 14, 2015 3:34:25 GMT -6
One of the reasons I'm pissed the full counts didn't fit me. What a bummer. The cotton and construction was awesome. Yes they are basically a classic 501 fit, feel, finish but still they were awesome.
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Post by julian on Apr 14, 2015 4:26:20 GMT -6
The 'problem', if it can be considered as such, is that Cone Mills make so many types of denim for so many people. With that being the case, it's inevitable that some of their denim is considered boring, uninteresting and not necessarily amazing quality.
As a mass market producer, they don't have the luxury of some of the niche Japanese denim producers where they can ensure all their output is premium and intended for people who like the fact their denim isn't easy to wear and 'perfectly' made.
Let's not forget, there are plenty of mills in Japan that also churn out boring, bland yet popular denim.
For me, Cone represents much of what's good and admirable about Made In USA manufacturing - even if the majority of their product doesn't overly excite me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 18:26:14 GMT -6
going through gustin's prior offerings, i made a list of cone offerings that i found to be something above and beyond a 'standard' indigo denim:
greenback
broken weave
cone khaki overdye
cone pima fire
cone black
cone crosshatch
the dark
of course there's only a couple of those i'd consider purchasing if they returned...one can only have so many indigo jeans...but cone does put out more than just blues with no character or texture every once in a while.
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