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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 20:15:30 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Apr 8, 2015 20:17:47 GMT -6
I'm not exactly sure what he is referring to with non button down though. What type of shirt is that?
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Post by metals37 on Apr 8, 2015 20:25:51 GMT -6
In reading the posts it seems like they are talking about button down collars?
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 20:28:19 GMT -6
I'm not exactly sure what he is referring to with non button down though. What type of shirt is that? I'm thinking what they offer now as a Oxford (Button down collar) , just lose the collar buttons. I think I'd back a few of the 7+oz Chambray's, Flannels if they didn't have the small bright white buttons. |
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Post by bentin on Apr 8, 2015 20:33:22 GMT -6
If they're unstructured, no. But if they have collar stay pockets, I'd try a solid color in tall fit to minimize the junk cover.
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Post by metals37 on Apr 8, 2015 20:39:38 GMT -6
I'm probably in the minority here, but I think on casual shirts button down collars look way better. On a dress shirt is a different story, but G ain't makin any dress shirts.
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Post by bentin on Apr 8, 2015 20:47:11 GMT -6
Agreed, but even casual shirts look better with collar stays, especially on heavier materials that tend to curl up even after they're ironed. Of course Gustin doesn't really offer a heavy flannel and their "heavy" twills are more of a mid weight.
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 20:48:46 GMT -6
Those little white buttons look odd if you use a Chambray as a first layer under a WorkShirt.
Most mid/heavy flannels I see are not button down.
But I can see if your looking at these flannels/Chambray's as oxfords but I'm looking at them as a dressier WorkShirt.
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Apr 8, 2015 20:50:45 GMT -6
Rather than button collars I'd love to see them make pocketless shirts or western style dual pockets for the flannels.
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Post by exophobe on Apr 8, 2015 20:52:07 GMT -6
I'm probably in the minority here, but I think on casual shirts button down collars look way better. On a dress shirt is a different story, but G ain't makin any dress shirts. It isn't so much that I hate the collar, it's that on some of the fabrics it doesn't make sense. For example, the Monster Twill has to more than fold back on itself in order to make the distance back and sit under the button, which buries the button in thick fabric creating a concave profile. No, it's not a big deal, still wear the shirt and I'm not self-conscious about it. It'd just be nice if on the heavier fabrics they would try it without the buttons, like on the workshirt. Straight on, hidey button:  What it looks like when laid flat:  |
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 20:54:25 GMT -6
Its funny. You guys who work in an office/sales type job look at the oxfords (button down) more as a casual shirt (am I right on that?)
And us guys in the salt mines look at them as a dressier shirt (not dress, hate it when I see a guy wear a button down with a suit).
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 20:56:12 GMT -6
I'm probably in the minority here, but I think on casual shirts button down collars look way better. On a dress shirt is a different story, but G ain't makin any dress shirts. FIt isn't so much that I hate the collar, it's that on some of the fabrics it doesn't make sense. For example, the Monster Twill has to more than fold back on itself in order to make the distance back and sit under the button, which buries the button in thick fabric creating a concave profile. No, it's not a big deal, still wear the shirt and I'm not self-conscious about it. It'd just be nice if on the heavier fabrics they would try it without the buttons, like on the workshirt. Straight on, hidey button: What it looks like when laid flat: THIS! I love the look of that shirt. But just couldn't back it because of the buttons (all of them, just to small) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 21:02:13 GMT -6
That button looks teeny tiny
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Post by metals37 on Apr 8, 2015 21:12:48 GMT -6
That button looks teeny tiny This. I actually like the look of the button down collar with that fabric. But THAT button doesn't work. |
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 21:15:21 GMT -6
That button looks teeny tiny This. I actually like the look of the button down collar with that fabric. But THAT button doesn't work. They should have used the buttons from the WorkShirts |
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Post by metals37 on Apr 8, 2015 21:15:33 GMT -6
Its funny. You guys who work in an office/sales type job look at the oxfords (button down) more as a casual shirt (am I right on that?) And us guys in the salt mines look at them as a dressier shirt (not dress, hate it when I see a guy wear a button down with a suit). OCBD is a casual shirt, 100%. And yes, a button down collar with a suit is a very poor look. I haven't worn a button down collar with a tie since I was old enough to know better (high school maybe?) |
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Post by exophobe on Apr 8, 2015 21:18:28 GMT -6
I think the main issue is that there is only one style of Gustin shirt. They won't do different buttons, styles, anything, and it's to the point where once you have four or five of their shirts in your closet, you hesitate to get any more because of the pocket style or the buttons, or the way you know that's going to look with the fabric they're releasing. I'd just like to see Gustin leverage the model more, and say "we'll do this shirt design if people back it, same fit, but flappy pockets, or snaps instead of buttons, western yoke, black buttons, non-button down collar, etc. I know I'd be more excited about Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday if there was a chance of a new design. I guess I just wish that they would step up their design game, because I believe they have the best eye for unique fabrics of any brand out there.
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Post by metals37 on Apr 8, 2015 21:25:13 GMT -6
I think the main issue is that there is only one style of Gustin shirt. They won't do different buttons, styles, anything, and it's to the point where once you have four or five of their shirts in your closet, you hesitate to get any more because of the pocket style or the buttons, or the way you know that's going to look with the fabric they're releasing. I'd just like to see Gustin leverage the model more, and say "we'll do this shirt design if people back it, same fit, but flappy pockets, or snaps instead of buttons, western yoke, black buttons, non-button down collar, etc. I know I'd be more excited about Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday if there was a chance of a new design. I guess I just wish that they would step up their design game, because I believe they have the best eye for unique fabrics of any brand out there. At least TS is trying this out with a similar model, but it seems (at least to this point) that G finds more interesting fabrics. |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Apr 8, 2015 21:27:30 GMT -6
I think the main issue is that there is only one style of Gustin shirt. They won't do different buttons, styles, anything, and it's to the point where once you have four or five of their shirts in your closet, you hesitate to get any more because of the pocket style or the buttons, or the way you know that's going to look with the fabric they're releasing. I'd just like to see Gustin leverage the model more, and say "we'll do this shirt design if people back it, same fit, but flappy pockets, or snaps instead of buttons, western yoke, black buttons, non-button down collar, etc. I know I'd be more excited about Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday if there was a chance of a new design. I guess I just wish that they would step up their design game, because I believe they have the best eye for unique fabrics of any brand out there. At least TS is trying this out with a similar model, but it seems (at least to this point) that G finds more interesting fabrics. + 1 to both of you. Come on G, design a different shirt. If it doesn't fund, no big deal. Minimal risk here. |
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2015 21:31:43 GMT -6
At least TS is trying this out with a similar model, but it seems (at least to this point) that G finds more interesting fabrics. + 1 to both of you. Come on G, design a different shirt. If it doesn't fund, no big deal. Minimal risk here. Remember Gustin doesn't check here. You gotta go over to SF to get your 2cents heard. www.styleforum.net/t/365731/gustin-official-affiliate-thread/5370 |
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Post by exophobe on Apr 8, 2015 21:39:00 GMT -6
Again, the last time we tried that, they started kicking people out of the forum after consensus was "the workshirts is too darn long" (though I have to say I'm very happy with where the length ended up after a wash on all my workshirts). |
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 9, 2015 2:24:03 GMT -6
OCBD is a casual shirt, 100%. And yes, a button down collar with a suit is a very poor look. I haven't worn a button down collar with a tie since I was old enough to know better (high school maybe?)    There are two ways of looking at this. You can either say "Cary Grant, Paul Newman and Frank Sinatra say you're wrong about that." Or you can say "unless you're Cary Grant, Paul Newman or Frank Sinatra you shouldn't wear a button-down shirt with a suit and tie." |
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Post by DigDug on Apr 9, 2015 7:16:34 GMT -6
OCBD is a casual shirt, 100%. And yes, a button down collar with a suit is a very poor look. I haven't worn a button down collar with a tie since I was old enough to know better (high school maybe?) There are two ways of looking at this. You can either say "Cary Grant, Paul Newman and Frank Sinatra say you're wrong about that." Or you can say "unless you're Cary Grant, Paul Newman or Frank Sinatra you shouldn't wear a button-down shirt with a suit and tie." How do we know that they are wearing suits? In these 3 examples, potentially all we see are these three wearing Blazers. If we could see the whole picture and they were wearing suits, they to may look odd. |
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Post by bentin on Apr 9, 2015 7:56:01 GMT -6
They look old. And they're probably also wearing polyester. Skip.
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Post by exophobe on Apr 9, 2015 8:48:44 GMT -6
They look old. And they're probably also wearing polyester. Skip. I'm only concerned that it seems like you don't know who they are, which would be mind-blowing. Either way, though, I can tell you those pants are likely at their belly-buttons, and that's a look I won't do since it's no longer 1960. What it comes down to, though, is fit and confidence. If it fits right, it's going to look good, and if it looks good, you're going to kill in it. |
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