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Oni Denim
Aug 7, 2015 15:08:18 GMT -6
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Post by wabisabi on Aug 7, 2015 15:08:18 GMT -6
was debating to pick up the 20oz for a week now decided to go ahead and grab the 546zr no arcs now that I got my 22$ in rewards to use towards my purchase from denimio..
The natural indigo I don't think shrinks up as much as the secrets (zr) & leg openings are half inch smaller also.
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Post by quick on Aug 11, 2015 0:03:38 GMT -6
20oz secret size 33 raw are in.
Here are the measurements:
waist: 35"
thigh (2" down): 24"
hem: 7.8"
knee (15" down): 8.75"
inseam: 35.2"
you guys think I should do a cold soak?
I prefer these measurements:
34"
thigh (2" down): 11.75"
Knee: 8.2"
hem: 7.5"
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Post by bugula on Aug 11, 2015 6:13:12 GMT -6
did you buy the one wash or raw? i think a cold soak could get them down a little bit but that waist is just going to stretch out again. if you can stand to lose some inseam, i'd go for a hot soak. and thanks for posting the measurements, i was trying to figure out if i should go for a 33 or 34.  |
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Post by ickes on Aug 11, 2015 8:18:18 GMT -6
did you buy the one wash or raw? i think a cold soak could get them down a little bit but that waist is just going to stretch out again. if you can stand to lose some inseam, i'd go for a hot soak. and thanks for posting the measurements, i was trying to figure out if i should go for a 33 or 34. He got the raw. |
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Oni Denim
Aug 11, 2015 8:26:15 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Aug 11, 2015 8:26:15 GMT -6
Wait, we're talking raw measurements and the intended targets are post wash? I think a cold soak will more than get him there. Plus the Secrets will stretch back out easily where needed.
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Post by quick on Aug 11, 2015 8:40:24 GMT -6
Peter from IO said it's best to choose raw in a smaller size, that way, it will stretch a little to being comfortable. you can also cold/hot soak to your desired tightness.
I chose the 33raws which would have been slightly small for me according to the fit guide, but they came in a little big.
a perfect fit in a one wash out of the bag will lead to stretching and a bad fit long term.
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Post by ickes on Aug 11, 2015 9:54:28 GMT -6
Peter from IO said it's best to choose raw in a smaller size, that way, it will stretch a little to being comfortable. you can also cold/hot soak to your desired tightness. I chose the 33raws which would have been slightly small for me according to the fit guide, but they came in a little big. a perfect fit in a one wash out of the bag will lead to stretching and a bad fit long term. Personally I disagree with this logic and I kind of get a little frustrated when I hear people like Peter in the denim field giving this advice to customers. I like my denim to have a good comfortable fit out of the bag. I've tried the whole stretching the denim out thing and overall it just doesn't really work for me. I would much rather have a great, comfortable fit out of the bag and IMO they don't stretch noticeably (if at all) when you have that initial comfortable fit. If there is nothing to stretch the denim then how will it stretch? In other words, if the waist and other areas fit comfortably and your waistline and/or thighs, etc.....aren't pressing against the denim to stretch it, then how will it stretch beyond that to a bad fit long term? |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 11, 2015 10:37:29 GMT -6
Not all denim stretches or shrinks the same.
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Post by quick on Aug 11, 2015 10:40:10 GMT -6
Peter from IO said it's best to choose raw in a smaller size, that way, it will stretch a little to being comfortable. you can also cold/hot soak to your desired tightness. I chose the 33raws which would have been slightly small for me according to the fit guide, but they came in a little big. a perfect fit in a one wash out of the bag will lead to stretching and a bad fit long term. Personally I disagree with this logic and I kind of get a little frustrated when I hear people like Peter in the denim field giving this advice to customers. I like my denim to have a good comfortable fit out of the bag. I've tried the whole stretching the denim out thing and overall it just doesn't really work for me. I would much rather have a great, comfortable fit out of the bag and IMO they don't stretch noticeably (if at all) when you have that initial comfortable fit. If there is nothing to stretch the denim then how will it stretch? In other words, if the waist and other areas fit comfortably and your waistline and/or thighs, etc.....aren't pressing against the denim to stretch it, then how will it stretch beyond that to a bad fit long term? In the end, I'm glad I chose the 33 raw, the one wash choice would have been the 34 ow, which probably would have come in too large. I'm currently debating whether to keep these jeans. I like nep, but the nep on these is a little out of control lol. my brother said it looks like I have dirt on my pants. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 11, 2015 10:45:32 GMT -6
Peter from IO said it's best to choose raw in a smaller size, that way, it will stretch a little to being comfortable. you can also cold/hot soak to your desired tightness. I chose the 33raws which would have been slightly small for me according to the fit guide, but they came in a little big. a perfect fit in a one wash out of the bag will lead to stretching and a bad fit long term. Personally I disagree with this logic and I kind of get a little frustrated when I hear people like Peter in the denim field giving this advice to customers. I like my denim to have a good comfortable fit out of the bag. I've tried the whole stretching the denim out thing and overall it just doesn't really work for me. I would much rather have a great, comfortable fit out of the bag and IMO they don't stretch noticeably (if at all) when you have that initial comfortable fit. If there is nothing to stretch the denim then how will it stretch? In other words, if the waist and other areas fit comfortably and your waistline and/or thighs, etc.....aren't pressing against the denim to stretch it, then how will it stretch beyond that to a bad fit long term? Well, not to be a contrarian, but some of us also enjoy a difficult jean that breaks IN to being comfy and nice for the rest of its life. Soft and comfy out of the bag, from my experience, often equates to little character in the jean and a short jean life because they become formless and floppy over time. You're really rarely going to get a comfy fit out of the bag for unsanfordized jeans. And, from my own experience of what I like in a jean, if you want them to fit right for the life of the jeans, you are going to need to go a little small in the waist since the waist really will stretch a bit. I have read that the secrets especially stretch out. <br><br>I like that second denim skin feeling. Not skinny jeans, mind you, but form fitting. I like when the jean moulds to me. Not just putting on a jean that kind of hangs there. Some like a looser fitting jean. That is comfortable to that person. To some of us, though, that feels like dad jeans. It's all subjective. |
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Post by bugula on Aug 11, 2015 10:45:30 GMT -6
if those specs are true - i might be interested in taking them off your hands. you know, as a favor so you can avoid the international return shipping and such.
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Oni Denim
Aug 11, 2015 10:57:46 GMT -6
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Post by wabisabi on Aug 11, 2015 10:57:46 GMT -6
do a hot soak but leave thes waist above water then cold soak it after to control waist from shrinking to much is what I do.
I got a 33 first in the 517xxbe had to sell them waist was to tight on me got a 34 fit perfectly..
Different strokes for different folks I guess..
Hopefully mine make it here by Saturday.
doesn't seem to be much give or stretch in the waist on Oni that's for sure
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 11, 2015 11:07:17 GMT -6
A lukewarm wash will get you those measurements man. Trust me. But I'd just stick something 17" in the waist/top block just to be sure. A lot of cookie sheets are around that. Or run to Lowe's or HD and get a piece of wood cut. Easy peasy. But the rest will surely shrink by that much, if not more.
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Post by ickes on Aug 11, 2015 12:20:33 GMT -6
Personally I disagree with this logic and I kind of get a little frustrated when I hear people like Peter in the denim field giving this advice to customers. I like my denim to have a good comfortable fit out of the bag. I've tried the whole stretching the denim out thing and overall it just doesn't really work for me. I would much rather have a great, comfortable fit out of the bag and IMO they don't stretch noticeably (if at all) when you have that initial comfortable fit. If there is nothing to stretch the denim then how will it stretch? In other words, if the waist and other areas fit comfortably and your waistline and/or thighs, etc.....aren't pressing against the denim to stretch it, then how will it stretch beyond that to a bad fit long term? <br><br>I like that second denim skin feeling. Not skinny jeans, mind you, but form fitting. I like when the jean moulds to me. Not just putting on a jean that kind of hangs there. Says the guy who busted the leg stitching on his new Strike Golds. #skinnyjeandenial....jk  whiskeyriver....I hate to be that guy, I really do....but it's sanforized, not sanfordized. I thought maybe it was just a typo when I read it the first few times in some of your posts but I think you are intentionally saying sanfordized??? I really don't like to be the grammar/spelling nazi but for some reason sanfordized just bothers me. Of course now I can just see it, everyone is going to start typing sanfordized from here on out to annoy me Anywho, yeah....it's obviously a matter of opinion and obviously dependent on one's body type as well. If one were to have a larger than average waist size with proportionately smaller than average legs and they preferred a slimmer fit, then yeah a jean that's snugger in the waist will work better for them as far as the fit of the legs. If you have a smaller than average waist with larger than average legs however, you will find that you will need to buy jeans that fit either perfectly in the waist right out of the bag or even a bit bigger in the waist to get the desired fit on your legs (which happens to be the case for me). Even if you do like a more slim/fitted look you will find that most cuts just don't come large enough in the thighs. Like on my Oni 517's the waist is loose on me but they are a nice slim fit on my legs, ass, etc... I actually like both a slim straight and straight fit depending on the outfit, occasion, etc....but I'm just not down with wearing painful jeans hoping to stretch them out to a desired fit. Not my thing. |
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Post by bentin on Aug 11, 2015 12:23:16 GMT -6
In three months, Ickes will be weaing painful, sanfordized, tonal jeans.
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Post by ickes on Aug 11, 2015 12:24:26 GMT -6
lol...ha ha. Don't think I didn't notice the sanfordized part ya jerk! |
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Post by Winterland on Aug 11, 2015 12:28:25 GMT -6
<br><br>I like that second denim skin feeling. Not skinny jeans, mind you, but form fitting. I like when the jean moulds to me. Not just putting on a jean that kind of hangs there. Says the guy who busted the leg stitching on his new Strike Golds. #skinnyjeandenial....jk whiskeyriver....I hate to be that guy, I really do....but it's sanforized, not sanfordized. I thought maybe it was just a typo when I read it the first few times in some of your posts but I think you are intentionally saying sanfordized??? I really don't like to be the grammar/spelling nazi but for some reason sanfordized just bothers me. Of course now I can just see it, everyone is going to start typing sanfordized from here on out to annoy me Anywho, yeah....it's obviously a matter of opinion and obviously dependent on one's body type as well. If one were to have a larger than average waist size with proportionately smaller than average legs and they preferred a slimmer fit, then yeah a jean that's snugger in the waist will work better for them as far as the fit of the legs. If you have a smaller than average waist with larger than average legs however, you will find that you will need to buy jeans that fit either perfectly in the waist right out of the bag or even a bit bigger in the waist to get the desired fit on your legs (which happens to be the case for me). Even if you do like a more slim/fitted look you will find that most cuts just don't come large enough in the thighs. Like on my Oni 517's the waist is loose on me but they are a nice slim fit on my legs, ass, etc... I actually like both a slim straight and straight fit depending on the outfit, occasion, etc....but I'm just not down with wearing painful jeans hoping to stretch them out to a desired fit. Not my thing. This would be Sanfordized |
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Post by bentin on Aug 11, 2015 12:29:19 GMT -6
I believe this is a sanfordized jacket:  |
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Post by Winterland on Aug 11, 2015 12:30:44 GMT -6
Looks like we're all thinking the same thing.
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Oni Denim
Aug 11, 2015 12:32:59 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Aug 11, 2015 12:32:59 GMT -6
Looks like we're all thinking the same thing. You beat me by a minute. Stupid little iPhone keyboard! |
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Oni Denim
Aug 11, 2015 12:36:30 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Aug 11, 2015 12:36:30 GMT -6
Lmao...
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 11, 2015 12:59:27 GMT -6
WHATEVER. Haha. You know what I mean. And most importantly, I KNOW what I mean. You big dummy. EDIT: In my defense, and it is not much of one, I truly have no idea why I throw that extra D in there. I know what the heck the process is. I have embarrassingly read a good deal of the history of denim. But yet, I still do it. I know I do it. I knew I did it. Yet I still do it. And probably still will. EDIT 2: Also, don't play ickes, we all know you like dad jeans. It's ok, man. We don't judge. It's your thing. Own it. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 11, 2015 17:32:22 GMT -6
Says the guy who busted the leg stitching on his new Strike Golds. #skinnyjeandenial....jk whiskeyriver....I hate to be that guy, I really do....but it's sanforized, not sanfordized. I thought maybe it was just a typo when I read it the first few times in some of your posts but I think you are intentionally saying sanfordized??? I really don't like to be the grammar/spelling nazi but for some reason sanfordized just bothers me. Of course now I can just see it, everyone is going to start typing sanfordized from here on out to annoy me ** SNIP ** Some people seem to get confused because the dude that came up with it was named Sanford. At one point I thought maybe Sanforized was wrong because of that, but this presumably ancient button seems to indicate it's never been Sanford. Not saying whiskeyriver is confused, just that I've seen it on a number of articles.  |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 11, 2015 17:38:07 GMT -6
Says the guy who busted the leg stitching on his new Strike Golds. #skinnyjeandenial....jk whiskeyriver....I hate to be that guy, I really do....but it's sanforized, not sanfordized. I thought maybe it was just a typo when I read it the first few times in some of your posts but I think you are intentionally saying sanfordized??? I really don't like to be the grammar/spelling nazi but for some reason sanfordized just bothers me. Of course now I can just see it, everyone is going to start typing sanfordized from here on out to annoy me ** SNIP ** Some people seem to get confused because the dude that came up with it was named Sanford. At one point I thought maybe Sanforized was wrong because of that, but this presumably ancient button seems to indicate it's never been Sanford. Not saying whiskeyriver is confused, just that I've seen it on a number of articles. Oh, no worries. I'm confused about a lot of things. Haha. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 22:21:16 GMT -6
Just placed an order for a pair of 506zr's. Wish I had done it a week ago to avoid the holiday delay... but it's not like i'll be wearing 20oz denim this month anyway.
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