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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 23, 2018 13:08:36 GMT -6
Totally with you on this. Not a fan of the waxed stuff anymore and to me doesn't really jive with IH. yeah, waxed canvas always struck me as more of a hunting/outdoor fabric than something one would use for riding a motorcycle. IH is good at things like heavy denim, overdyed clothing and awesome flannels and while it's good to experiment once in awhile I just don't see waxed canvas fitting in with their look.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 23, 2018 13:11:43 GMT -6
Dude, couldn't agree more jdub, an IH heavy waxed M65 and CPO would be epic! Seems right up their rugged wear alley. I'm the opposite and don't think waxed canvas would work for IH. I own 3 waxed canvas jackets (previously 4 but sold my RgT one) that I barely wear anymore because 1) they get dirty very easily and are a bitch to clean 2) waxed canvas doesn't breathe very well and 3) IH would be competing against the likes of Filson and Barbour, both of whom are known for their waxed canvas jackets. I used to love waxed canvas when I first got my G trucker but over time the honemoon phase faded and now I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. My 2 cents Interesting, I've rocked the shit out of my Corridor x DR waxed M65 for last 1.5years and it's not dirty in the least and looks great with its elbow combs and leather like quality--not doing work in the grime with it, but def wouldn't consider it a dirt magnet. Ideal for wet climates when not wanting to don another plastic rain jacket like the rest of the heard. And seems ideal for wet and windy bike conditions--agreed they dont breathe the best and not good hiking gear. And to the not competing with Filson or Barbour, IH does great with duck cloth which is Filson's bread and butter (just 1 example of many parallels they share). Love hearing another's perspective and Im coming across more defensive than I actually am, but def think you're off base that waxed garments arent in IHs wheelhouse. I do remember Giles typing something years ago about waxing your own IH gear, cause they didn't want to deal with the process or something along those lines. So maybe there is more to the story than I'm recognizing. Im sure H and G had to have considered the idea, so hope we hear direct from the companies mouth.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 23, 2018 13:32:26 GMT -6
It's more of a personal preference in the end. I also think it didn't help when I came across a ton of waxed canvas jackets on IG, like the RgT waxed supply jacket, that looked absolutely filthy. I'm sure there are plenty of people that go for that look, just like having worn denim, but when it comes to a light colored waxed canvas i'd prefer a cleaner look. I wore my RgT waxed supply jacket once and then eventually sold it because it felt like I was wearing cardboard.
I know there other companies out there doing waxed canvas jackets -- Freenote Cloth comes to mind, but my suspicion is that if IH did one it might appeal to a few customers but would end up in the Outlet. It's kinda like the sashiko fad that's been so prevalent in the last couple of years. I once suggested that IH do a sashiko Western because I know that with their impeccable attention to detail it could be awesome. But then I had to walk that comment back because I knew sashiko wasn't their thing and that there were plenty of others doing sashiko tops like SDA & Momotaro.
But, i've been wrong before so never say never, right?
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Post by ickes on Feb 23, 2018 13:40:37 GMT -6
Exactly, never say never. I wouldn't have thought that Polo's and sweatpants were up IH's alley but they did them and they look great. I think it's personal opinion as well and disheveled you're not coming across as defensive at all. I'm just not a big fan of waxed canvas jackets and to gaseous's point it seems like so many other brands are doing them....which doesn't necessarily mean that's bad I guess but they just aren't something that strikes my fancy.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 23, 2018 13:49:48 GMT -6
Love any good convos bout IH gear! Living in AZ vs WA would change my perspective I'm sure Motor cycle culture and waxed garments seems like a match made in heaven, but I do have limited anecdotal evidence-- davelewis whats your thoughts? Feel you Gas, not envious of making the real world business decisions that G and H have to handle. Much easier just picking and suggesting stuff that makes my blood pump and snapping pictures of the fires!!!
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Post by davelewis on Feb 23, 2018 14:20:03 GMT -6
Love any good convos bout IH gear! Living in AZ vs WA would change my perspective I'm sure Motor cycle culture and waxed garments seems like a match made in heaven, but I do have limited anecdotal evidence-- davelewis whats your thoughts? Feel you Gas, not envious of making the real world business decisions that G and H have to handle. Much easier just picking and suggesting stuff that makes my blood pump and snapping pictures of the fires!!! I think there is certainly a place for waxed garments, although where you live, and climate should be considered for determining their wearability. I own 2 waxed jackets, one being a Filson Cruiser, and an really old Woolrich field type jacket, with a hood, and kind of an M-65 vibe to it with the pocketing, and is fully lined in wool. I suppose the right garment could be worn on a bike for running around shorter distances, or whatever, but I can't recollect ever wearing mine on the motorcycle. Unless its brutally hot out, I stick with the tried and true horsehide garments, as they are superior for protecting against abrasion, more water resistive, and can't be beat for keeping the wind at bay.
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Post by Jdub6 on Feb 23, 2018 16:17:47 GMT -6
Great input fellas. I think the opportunity for IH actually lies in the saturated Filson/Barbour/clone market. I too think IH producing stated clone would be silly, however, I saw a while back a one off (maybe <20) of an uber thick waxed collar jacket. Looked just like a beautifully veg tanned leather jacket. Looked spectacular. FWIW, I'm not wearing my IH M65, etc. in the rain when I have my TS Rover jacket (waxed) next to it. Thing is great in the rain. And yes, sweatpants and the like are not congruent with bike culture so who gives a feck. IMHO, it would appear flexibility may be a far more important ingredient in their future success than adhering to a "culture" coming from someone like me (who loves bikes, rode lots of dirt bikes, etc. but alas no Harleys). As previously mentioned, the idea of actual riders buying a $350 flannel, etc. is laughable. I give IH way more credit. They can do whatever the feck they want and it will be tits, not because of adherence to a particular crowd, but because it's IRON HEART. No one touches their shit. Speaking of such...where is that coffee table.
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Post by ickes on Feb 23, 2018 16:53:38 GMT -6
Speaking of such...you just reminded me of something I've been meaning to post.
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Post by Jdub6 on Feb 23, 2018 16:56:09 GMT -6
Please tell me you have the IH coffee table. LOL Damn, can never find that jacket I mentioned (I suppose it was mostly a burly IHish like supply jacket) Did see the Vanson Trophy Jacket in waxed canvas. Not a huge fan of it but cool nonetheless. edit: wowzers, Vanson has a bunch of cool waxed rider jackets. Good lawd, the Vanson Dover waxed is a beauty.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 24, 2018 9:15:44 GMT -6
Thanks for the response davelewis! Not a rider, but thanks for reminding me my line up has a glaring leather jacket hole in it!
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Post by yinzer on Feb 24, 2018 10:06:15 GMT -6
Anyone here have any experience with the lefty trucker V2? It's time for a big boy type 3 that I can wear for years and it seems like a winner.
Sleeves and length seem a touch long, though.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 10:23:01 GMT -6
Anyone here have any experience with the lefty trucker V2? It's time for a big boy type 3 that I can wear for years and it seems like a winner. Sleeves and length seem a touch long, though. No experience personally but it's a modified type III so longer in body length. The long sleeve length, to my recollection, serves a practical purpose for motorcyclists and that is so the sleeves don't ride up to your elbows when on your bike. The product description says the Lefty trucker V2 is unsanforized but once washed, so you could conceivably throw it in a hot wash and get some additional shrink if you wanted. Have you considered the IH-526Lod?
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Post by yinzer on Feb 24, 2018 10:26:50 GMT -6
Anyone here have any experience with the lefty trucker V2? It's time for a big boy type 3 that I can wear for years and it seems like a winner. Sleeves and length seem a touch long, though. No experience personally but it's a modified type III so longer in body length. The long sleeve length, to my recollection, serves a practical purpose for motorcyclists and that is so the sleeves don't ride up to your elbows when on your bike. The product description says the Lefty trucker V2 is unsanforized but once washed, so you could conceivably throw it in a hot wash and get some additional shrink if you wanted. Wonder if 1 inch in overall length shrinkage is a reach too far.... I'm confident the sleeves would lose .5 though. I like short bodied denim jackets and prefer the older style silhouette. But so many brands don't offer hand pockets on the side. I'm afraid this would be an ass/dick curtain on me the more I think about it.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 10:30:13 GMT -6
IHUK does have several other type III options that aren't modified: www.ironheart.co.uk/jeans-jackets/ I think the 526J and 526Jod are the normal versions with shorter length
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Post by giles on Feb 24, 2018 11:56:55 GMT -6
Re: Waxed. If I want on, I wear a Barbour. If H wants to do one, cool, but I won't be initiating the discussion with H I am afraid....
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Post by yinzer on Feb 24, 2018 12:06:19 GMT -6
IHUK does have several other type III options that aren't modified: www.ironheart.co.uk/jeans-jackets/ I think the 526J and 526Jod are the normal versions with shorter length Man, the "classic" made with just regular 21oz is perfect measurement wise, but no side pockets 😠need more time to think on it I already have the vest though in 21oz. Such frivolous decisions ahead lol.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 12:16:43 GMT -6
IHUK does have several other type III options that aren't modified: www.ironheart.co.uk/jeans-jackets/ I think the 526J and 526Jod are the normal versions with shorter length Man, the "classic" made with just regular 21oz is perfect measurement wise, but no side pockets 😠need more time to think on it I already have the vest though in 21oz. Such frivolous decisions ahead lol. Not frivolous at all. hand warmer pockets are a must for me. I personally think the modified type III's that IHUK puts out are top notch. I've never really liked short truckers and the extra length is a nice touch. Not everyone's cuppa tea, I know, but it's a great option to have and not very many companies offer them. Usually fit pics end up swaying me one way or another. Perhaps you should check out some of the jacket threads over at IHUK and see how the modified jackets look on others before you decide on the traditional type III
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Post by yinzer on Feb 24, 2018 12:21:02 GMT -6
Man, the "classic" made with just regular 21oz is perfect measurement wise, but no side pockets 😠need more time to think on it I already have the vest though in 21oz. Such frivolous decisions ahead lol. Not frivolous at all. hand warmer pockets are a must for me. I personally think the modified type III's that IHUK puts out are top notch. I've never really liked short truckers and the extra length is a nice touch. Not everyone's cuppa tea, I know, but it's a great option to have and not very many companies offer them. Usually fit pics end up swaying me one way or another. Perhaps you should check out some of the jacket threads over at IHUK and see how the modified jackets look on others before you decide on the traditional type III That's what is making me question the lefty. The sleeves do not look good on many people. Even the model, look at the biceps. Looks massive. I like a trimmer arm and short body, making the lefty just seem all that much more not for me. Bummer. I'm finding myself more picky about things now, and don't want a non denim jacket or over dyed this or that etc....Just a plain jane type 3 with pockets and short fit. Edit: The classic type 3 is still a possibility though lol.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 12:30:56 GMT -6
IHUK is coming out with the IH-526PJ SS18 which is a modified type III (1" longer) but with hand warmer pockets. I know, it's modified and not the short fit you're looking for but it will have the handwarmer pockets.
Otherwise you could check out Okayama Denim and see if they have any traditional type III's with hand warmer pockets. I'm there are others doing this, like maybe Samurai, TCB, UES Denim or Japan Blue.
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Post by yinzer on Feb 24, 2018 12:49:03 GMT -6
IHUK is coming out with the IH-526PJ SS18 which is a modified type III (1" longer) but with hand warmer pockets. I know, it's modified and not the short fit you're looking for but it will have the handwarmer pockets. Otherwise you could check out Okayama Denim and see if they have any traditional type III's with hand warmer pockets. I'm there are others doing this, like maybe Samurai, TCB, UES Denim or Japan Blue. That one dropping is the one I think. If it's close to the other standard one I can deal with one extra inch. Hoping the arms aren't crazy long and that's it I think. Seems it's coming in March. Thanks for the heads up on this one. I haven't filled out a form in a long while lol.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 12:54:54 GMT -6
it's pretty likely the sleeves will be the same length as the traditional IH-526J, the only difference being the added body length and hand warmer pockets.
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Post by davelewis on Feb 24, 2018 14:50:58 GMT -6
Thanks for the response davelewis ! Not a rider, but thanks for reminding me my line up has a glaring leather jacket hole in it! It sounds to me like you need to take a ride up to Greenwood Ave., and check out Thurston Bros Rough Wear. I have no doubt they would be able to help you fill that jacket hole! Sorry if that sounded kind of nasty, lol www.thurston-bros.com/collections/aero-leather-clothing-of-scotland
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 24, 2018 15:08:54 GMT -6
Thanks for the response davelewis ! Not a rider, but thanks for reminding me my line up has a glaring leather jacket hole in it! It sounds to me like you need to take a ride up to Greenwood Ave., and check out Thurston Bros Rough Wear. I have no doubt they would be able to help you fill that jacket hole! Sorry if that sounded kind of nasty, lol www.thurston-bros.com/collections/aero-leather-clothing-of-scotlandThe Aero Sheene is still on my things to buy list.
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Post by northcoast on Feb 24, 2018 16:30:17 GMT -6
Thanks for the response davelewis ! Not a rider, but thanks for reminding me my line up has a glaring leather jacket hole in it! It sounds to me like you need to take a ride up to Greenwood Ave., and check out Thurston Bros Rough Wear. I have no doubt they would be able to help you fill that jacket hole! Sorry if that sounded kind of nasty, lol www.thurston-bros.com/collections/aero-leather-clothing-of-scotlandI have been eyeballing a few for a couple years. My hope is to get to Scotland and buy one at the factory.
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Post by davelewis on Feb 24, 2018 16:38:11 GMT -6
I have been eyeballing a few for a couple years. My hope is to get to Scotland and buy one at the factory. For sure. How cool would it be to walk out of Aero with a new jacket, and then head straight to a good whisky bar?
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