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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 15:26:16 GMT -6
I'd still like to buy a pair of Gustin jeans someday and I think their slim fit is the way to go based on their fit guide. I was curious if any of you could tell me your sizing experiences with the slim fit and post pics. I started a similar thread awhile back but it was more about the differences between all of their fits versus just slim fit.
For reference, I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and have a true waist measurement of 35.5". I wear a 34 waist with other companies like Uniqlo, N&F weird guy and 3sixteen's slim straight. Should I size up to a 36 waist for G's slim fit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 15:38:12 GMT -6
I'd still like to buy a pair of Gustin jeans someday and I think their slim fit is the way to go based on their fit guide. I was curious if any of you could tell me your sizing experiences with the slim fit and post pics. I started a similar thread awhile back but it was more about the differences between all of their fits versus just slim fit. For reference, I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and have a true waist measurement of 35.5". I wear a 34 waist with other companies like Uniqlo, N&F weird guy and 3sixteen's slim straight. Should I size up to a 36 waist for G's slim fit? Honestly, all you can do is measure your best fitting pair and compare it to the size chart. Nothing is more accurate than that. But you may also want to keep in mind Mattbert's observation of sizing discrepancies between Italian fabric, American fabric, and Japanese fabric. Also, being under six feet tall and having a waist larger than Gustin size 33 kinda sucks because of the inseam, 36“. You will probably need to get it hemmed.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 15:50:56 GMT -6
I'd still like to buy a pair of Gustin jeans someday and I think their slim fit is the way to go based on their fit guide. I was curious if any of you could tell me your sizing experiences with the slim fit and post pics. I started a similar thread awhile back but it was more about the differences between all of their fits versus just slim fit. For reference, I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and have a true waist measurement of 35.5". I wear a 34 waist with other companies like Uniqlo, N&F weird guy and 3sixteen's slim straight. Should I size up to a 36 waist for G's slim fit? Short answer to second paragraph, no. True waist of 35.5 here, and when Gustin 33s come in at spec or a little larger, they're just about perfect. A little under spec and it takes a little bit of work to stretch them. Calves fit me a little tight but I don't have tiny calves. That said, follow the Gustin fit guide. Tagged sizes will do very little for you in this world.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 28, 2015 16:21:42 GMT -6
I'd still like to buy a pair of Gustin jeans someday and I think their slim fit is the way to go based on their fit guide. I was curious if any of you could tell me your sizing experiences with the slim fit and post pics. I started a similar thread awhile back but it was more about the differences between all of their fits versus just slim fit. For reference, I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and have a true waist measurement of 35.5". I wear a 34 waist with other companies like Uniqlo, N&F weird guy and 3sixteen's slim straight. Should I size up to a 36 waist for G's slim fit? Brah I have 36slims up the ass some hemmed to a 40" outseam some not at all. If you want a pair to test fit let me know.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 16:23:14 GMT -6
I do measure my jeans and order based on what my size is. The problem I have with buying jeans based on fit is whether to go with a companies true measurements or go down a size because they'll stretch out eventually. With Uniqlo I went with my normal tagged waist rather than my measurements. My N&F weird guy chinos are a 34 waist but fit more like a 35/36, which works for me. Likewise, my 3sixteens are tagged a 34 but have a 35" measured waist and those fit me great as well.
I will always go with a company's fit guide, but since I've read about there being so many issues with G's fit guide coming under or over spec it's given me pause. It's either go with the fit guide and my true waist size and take the risk that they'll be too tight, or size up with the expectation that they'll fit and shrink a little when washed
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 16:25:27 GMT -6
I'd still like to buy a pair of Gustin jeans someday and I think their slim fit is the way to go based on their fit guide. I was curious if any of you could tell me your sizing experiences with the slim fit and post pics. I started a similar thread awhile back but it was more about the differences between all of their fits versus just slim fit. For reference, I'm 5'11, 180 lbs and have a true waist measurement of 35.5". I wear a 34 waist with other companies like Uniqlo, N&F weird guy and 3sixteen's slim straight. Should I size up to a 36 waist for G's slim fit? Brah I have 36slims up the ass some hemmed to a 40" outseam some not at all. If you want a pair to test fit let me know. Thanks for the offer but it's not necessary. What are your measurements? Do you have a similar build?
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 16:32:35 GMT -6
I do measure my jeans and order based on what my size is. The problem I have with buying jeans based on fit is whether to go with a companies true measurements or go down a size because they'll stretch out eventually. With Uniqlo I went with my normal tagged waist rather than my measurements. My N&F weird guy chinos are a 34 waist but fit more like a 35/36, which works for me. Likewise, my 3sixteens are tagged a 34 but have a 35" measured waist and those fit me great as well. I will always go with a company's fit guide, but since I've read about there being so many issues with G's fit guide coming under or over spec it's given me pause. It's either go with the fit guide and my true waist size and take the risk that they'll be too tight, or size up with the expectation that they'll fit and shrink a little when washed I would say the fairest guess, out of what I've received recently, is that they are hitting right about .25 over spec on the waist, fairly consistently -- which works out well for me. Only other person I know of around here getting a bunch of damn gustin jeans recently (who has prior experience with sizing these things) is ickes, so he is the one I would trust to corroborate/refute that, since it seems to be all over the place with the new people on styleforum -- and based on the way they bring it up, I don't trust most of their input. I think you'd be good with 33 since we have strikingly similar stats, unless you have giant legs. 34 will be an easier fit, but my Italy Black x Aqua are 34 slim, and they fall off of me with the top two buttons undone after six months of wear -- haven't experienced that with any of my 33s. I've also washed them and they tightened up a tiny bit, but stretched back out after the first to second wear.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 16:59:30 GMT -6
I should've mentioned that I'm not a fan of tight fitting jeans and prefer something in between. I always wear a belt anyway but still need a little wiggle room. Hence the reason I'm conflicted on G's fit guide. Part of me thinks the 35 slim would work since the fit guide lists it as having a 35.5 waist. If it comes under spec it wouldn't be so bad. My 3sixteen SL-120x have a 35" waist and fit reasonably well, so if I'm at 35" I'm good to go, anything under that would be painful
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 17:44:22 GMT -6
I should've mentioned that I'm not a fan of tight fitting jeans and prefer something in between. I always wear a belt anyway but still need a little wiggle room. Hence the reason I'm conflicted on G's fit guide. Part of me thinks the 35 slim would work since the fit guide lists it as having a 35.5 waist. If it comes under spec it wouldn't be so bad. My 3sixteen SL-120x have a 35" waist and fit reasonably well, so if I'm at 35" I'm good to go, anything under that would be painful Sounds like you should go larger than a 33. My true waist measures 35.5, and the 33 slims fit snug in the top block and take some stretching at the beginning, but I'm not at a point where I'm stressing seams. The only part that fits me tight after a few weeks is the calf. I think a 36 will probably be far looser than what you're looking for, where a 34 slightly over spec or 35 right at or under will probably end up about right.
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Post by jray on Feb 28, 2015 17:57:28 GMT -6
I'm 5 feet 7 and 175 with a true 34 waist and thick thighs. All of my 5 pairs of G's are 33 slim where the 33.5 stretches out to perfection over time. The Italian denim seems to sew tighter but stretch quickly. The Japan denim I own has always sewed up correctly.
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Post by ickes on Feb 28, 2015 18:12:36 GMT -6
gaseousclay, I would do what I believe others have suggested and just measure a pair of your existing jeans that fit well, compare them to the fit guide, and order based off of that. I always order assuming that every pair I get will be within specs of the fit guide. I've order quite a bit of Gustin jeans over the past year and a half and that strategy has worked in my favor the majority of the time. The percentages don't lie. Sure, I have gotten pairs out of spec, quite a few actually, but overall the pairs I have received within specs outnumber the pairs I have received out of the spec range. So from there on it just depends on how you like your jeans to fit and if you like to go through the process of stretching the waist out an inch or more, or if you like them to be comfy right out of the bag. I am pretty much over the stretching the waist by an inch strategy and I now like my jeans to basically fit comfortable in the waist right out of the bag. I now have a 34.5" inch actual waist and I can fit in anything from a 32"-34" straight, or a 33"-34" slim. The jeans on the low end are obviously a bit snugger on me and require some stretching in the waist while the jeans on the high end are comfy right out of the bag with a roomier but not baggy fit. Based on your comments I think that a 34 or 35 slim would work for you. The 34s would be a snugger fit that would require a bit of stretching in the waist while the 35s would fit comfy in the waist right out of the bag with a bit more room all around. Now I don't know your thigh or calf measurements so that will play a role in the sizing and how you will want your jeans to fit as well, but this is the best advice I can give you right now. If I was in your situation I would go with a 35 slim based on the information you've provided. If I have time today I can post some pics of different sizes on me. Oh, and lets see...out of the last 4 pairs of Gustins I have received only one pair was out of the spec range while the other three were within specs.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 18:13:46 GMT -6
I should've mentioned that I'm not a fan of tight fitting jeans and prefer something in between. I always wear a belt anyway but still need a little wiggle room. Hence the reason I'm conflicted on G's fit guide. Part of me thinks the 35 slim would work since the fit guide lists it as having a 35.5 waist. If it comes under spec it wouldn't be so bad. My 3sixteen SL-120x have a 35" waist and fit reasonably well, so if I'm at 35" I'm good to go, anything under that would be painful Sounds like you should go larger than a 33. My true waist measures 35.5, and the 33 slims fit snug in the top block and take some stretching at the beginning, but I'm not at a point where I'm stressing seams. The only part that fits me tight after a few weeks is the calf. I think a 36 will probably be far looser than what you're looking for, where a 34 slightly over spec or 35 right at or under will probably end up about right. That's what I'll have to decide, whether G's 34 or 35 works best. I can't do skin tight with jeans, especially in the top block, thighs and calf. The other consideration is cuff size. I prefer a range of 7.75" to 8.25" wide, and G's 35 puts the cuff at 7.75 which is the lowest I'll go. My Uniqlos and 3sixteens are 8.25, my N&F are 7.75 and my Levis are 8.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 18:15:56 GMT -6
That's what I'll have to decide, whether G's 34 or 35 works best. I can't do skin tight with jeans, especially in the top block, thighs and calf. The other consideration is cuff size. I prefer a range of 7.75" to 8.25" wide, and G's 35 puts the cuff at 7.75 which is the lowest I'll go. My Uniqlos and 3sixteens are 8.25, my N&F are 7.75 and my Levis are 8. I think once you take 4 or 5 inches off the hem it'll probably widen up a bit for you.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 28, 2015 18:21:12 GMT -6
gaseousclay, I would do what I believe others have suggested and just measure a pair of your existing jeans that fit well, compare them to the fit guide, and order based off of that. I always order assuming that every pair I get will be within specs of the fit guide. I've order quite a bit of Gustin jeans over the past year and a half and that strategy has worked in my favor the majority of the time. The percentages don't lie. Sure, I have gotten pairs out of spec, quite a few actually, but overall the pairs I have received within specs outnumber the pairs I have received out of the spec range. So from there on it just depends on how you like your jeans to fit and if you like to go through the process of stretching the waist out an inch or more, or if you like them to be comfy right out of the bag. I am pretty much over the stretching the waist by an inch strategy and I now like my jeans to basically fit comfortable in the waist right out of the bag. I now have a 34.5" inch actual waist and I can fit in anything from a 32"-34" straight, or a 33"-34" slim. The jeans on the low end are obviously a bit snugger on me and require some stretching in the waist while the jeans on the high end are comfy right out of the bag with a roomier but not baggy fit. Based on your comments I think that a 34 or 35 slim would work for you. The 34s would be a snugger fit that would require a bit of stretching in the waist while the 35s would fit comfy in the waist right out of the bag with a bit more room all around. Now I don't know your thigh or calf measurements so that will play a role in the sizing and how you will want your jeans to fit as well, but this is the best advice I can give you right now. If I was in your situation I would go with a 35 slim based on the information you've provided. If I have time today I can post some pics of different sizes on me. Oh, and lets see...out of the last 4 pairs of Gustins I have received only one pair was out of the spec range while the other three were within specs. Agreed on your comments and recommendation. I also think the 35 slim should work. I do prefer my jeans to fit right out of the bag. When I got my 3sixteens the other week I had a hell of a time getting the button flys to close, and that was for a 35" measured waist. They fit fine and will stretch over time but I dislike having to squeeze into jeans - I don't want to look like a human sausage casing
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 1, 2015 7:43:53 GMT -6
Honestly I am a weird build I feel at least.
220lbs this morning naked no food post leak. So basically the lightest I'll be all day.
35.5- 36" natural waist Thighs are 25" Calves are 17.5" Inseam is 29" to the floor so I usually hem for 31" this does open the cuff a wee bit really not too too much as Gustin is slim in the leg.
My #43 left hand twill, Pima fires and grey silks are all 36slim and they are def on the small end of the scale now that my legs got a bit bigger.
My japan classics, zimbs, blackxaqua, BxB, indigoXindigo are all 36slim but fit on the big end of the spectrum in the leg and fit great.
I went size 37slim for the true blue silks and super heavies. Not so much for the waist but for the leg space.
My hang up point is the calves. Hopefully dropping some fat will thin my legs out.
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Post by Mattbert on Mar 1, 2015 22:38:35 GMT -6
I do measure my jeans and order based on what my size is. The problem I have with buying jeans based on fit is whether to go with a companies true measurements or go down a size because they'll stretch out eventually. With Uniqlo I went with my normal tagged waist rather than my measurements. My N&F weird guy chinos are a 34 waist but fit more like a 35/36, which works for me. Likewise, my 3sixteens are tagged a 34 but have a 35" measured waist and those fit me great as well. I will always go with a company's fit guide, but since I've read about there being so many issues with G's fit guide coming under or over spec it's given me pause. It's either go with the fit guide and my true waist size and take the risk that they'll be too tight, or size up with the expectation that they'll fit and shrink a little when washed I would say the fairest guess, out of what I've received recently, is that they are hitting right about .25 over spec on the waist, fairly consistently -- which works out well for me. Only other person I know of around here getting a bunch of damn gustin jeans recently (who has prior experience with sizing these things) is ickes, so he is the one I would trust to corroborate/refute that, since it seems to be all over the place with the new people on styleforum -- and based on the way they bring it up, I don't trust most of their input. I think you'd be good with 33 since we have strikingly similar stats, unless you have giant legs. 34 will be an easier fit, but my Italy Black x Aqua are 34 slim, and they fall off of me with the top two buttons undone after six months of wear -- haven't experienced that with any of my 33s. I've also washed them and they tightened up a tiny bit, but stretched back out after the first to second wear. I have backed around a dozen Gustins since last summer. All of them have hit the waist size dead on or have been comfortably within the +/- 0.5" to be considered within tolerances. So, gaseousclay, if your true waist size is 35.5 (as mine is) I would order a 35 in Gustin if the thigh, knee, and cuff measurements look like they'll work for you.
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 2, 2015 6:34:19 GMT -6
I have backed around a dozen Gustins since last summer. All of them have hit the waist size dead on or have been comfortably within the +/- 0.5" to be considered within tolerances. So, gaseousclay, if your true waist size is 35.5 (as mine is) I would order a 35 in Gustin if the thigh, knee, and cuff measurements look like they'll work for you. agreed. The 35 slims look to be within my own personal measurements so I think it'll work. Thanks for the info
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Post by gingerman on Mar 30, 2015 19:07:58 GMT -6
My measured waste size is a 34 I'm 5'8 165 lbs however I got a size 31 are those going to be way to tight around the waste?
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Post by seth on Mar 30, 2015 19:10:12 GMT -6
My measured waste size is a 34 I'm 5'8 165 lbs however I got a size 31 are those going to be way to tight around the waste? Yes. Gustin sizes run a little small.
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Post by seth on Mar 30, 2015 19:14:06 GMT -6
My measured waste size is a 34 I'm 5'8 165 lbs however I got a size 31 are those going to be way to tight around the waste? Also, you shouldn't measure your waste. That's gross.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 19:49:17 GMT -6
My measured waste size is a 34 I'm 5'8 165 lbs however I got a size 31 are those going to be way to tight around the waste? Yes. Gustin sizes run a little small. Spec wise, the waist on a 31 runs from 31" to 32". So, best case scenario, if they come in big, you'd still need to lose a few pounds or work to stretch those suckers out. But that's only a part of the issue. How do the other measurements compare? Like the thigh, knee, cuff opening?
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Post by seth on Mar 30, 2015 19:54:44 GMT -6
Yes. Gustin sizes run a little small. Spec wise, the waist on a 31 runs from 31" to 32". So, best case scenario, if they come in big, you'd still need to lose a few pounds or work to stretch those suckers out. But that's only a part of the issue. How do the other measurements compare? Like the thigh, knee, cuff opening? In practice, my American Sixteener in W31 straight measured 30.5". And a pair of Heavy American in W31 straight measured 30.25", so I found them to be a little on the small side relative to tagged/spec sizes. Edit: I checked my records; the 16ers were 30.0" when new. I just measured them now at 30.5" after two months wear so that includes some stretching. I'm a true W31 and I still find them tight.
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Post by Marc on Mar 30, 2015 20:07:57 GMT -6
Spec wise, the waist on a 31 runs from 31" to 32". So, best case scenario, if they come in big, you'd still need to lose a few pounds or work to stretch those suckers out. But that's only a part of the issue. How do the other measurements compare? Like the thigh, knee, cuff opening? In practice, my American Sixteener in W31 straight measured 30.5". And a pair of Heavy American in W31 straight measured 30.25", so I found them to be a little on the small side relative to tagged/spec sizes. Edit: I checked my records; the 16ers were 30.0" when new. I just measured them now at 30.5" after two months wear so that includes some stretching. I'm a true W31 and I still find them tight. seth, as a quick aside, have you soaked/washed your American sixteeners? If so, did they shrink at all in the length?
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Post by seth on Mar 30, 2015 20:11:55 GMT -6
In practice, my American Sixteener in W31 straight measured 30.5". And a pair of Heavy American in W31 straight measured 30.25", so I found them to be a little on the small side relative to tagged/spec sizes. Edit: I checked my records; the 16ers were 30.0" when new. I just measured them now at 30.5" after two months wear so that includes some stretching. I'm a true W31 and I still find them tight. seth, as a quick aside, have you soaked/washed your American sixteeners? If so, did they shrink at all in the length? When new, the inseam of the 16ers was 34.25". Warm soaked twice over two months. Dryed flat. After drying, the inseam now measures 33.0". They might lengthen a little when I start wearing them again. I think shrinking an inch or so in inseam is common even for sanforized denim. (That's why I no longer get jeans hemmed until after about 6 months.)
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Post by exophobe on Mar 30, 2015 20:19:55 GMT -6
My measured waste size is a 34 I'm 5'8 165 lbs however I got a size 31 are those going to be way to tight around the waste? How did you get 34, and what did your favorite pair of jeans measure when you measured them as directed by the Gustin fit guide? If you measured your favorite pair and it came in at 17", then 31s are going to be a medieval torture device.
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