Yes! I really like them. The horween leathers are very stiff, and do show the illustrious/waxy character. However, there are some people that reported certain pieces of the leather jacket having much looser grain. Thus, you may or may not get a jacket that is uniform in appearance (texture)/smooth throughout. On the other hand, the 499 coats L1 black/brown feel more supple and do not show any cosmetic flaws. I prefer my L1 black over the horween CXL #8.