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Post by drewcandraw on Jun 27, 2016 11:15:27 GMT -6
I am looking for some quality dress shoes to last me the next 10-20 years as I have been just wearing the cheapo Macys brands and replacing every year or so since they don't last. I looked on SF and reddit but wanted a laid back forum to hear from.
I have a high instep/wide waist/low arch type of foot. Most of my previous and current dress shoes are the dreaded squarish or round wide toe area as I need it.
I was looking at Johnston & Murphy made in USA as I could just bart to Union Square and get sized there and order online. Not sure if Aldens or AE is still worth it after reading some threads on SF. I do have Aldens to stop by if I wanted to get fitted as well.
Are their any MTO similar to Truman boots? Don't really want china made unless it really is great.
Looking to spend $300-500? Black/light brown colors so I can swap between all my suits.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 27, 2016 11:22:59 GMT -6
I would go with either Alden's PTB or the AE Leeds. The only PTB's I own are a pair of Crockett & Jones suede PTB's. Sadly, they don't fit and have been sitting in my closet for the past 2 yrs.
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 11:29:04 GMT -6
Do you wear dress shoes 4-5x a week? If so you'll get the best wear out of things if you have at least 4-5 pair so that you can keep a week between wears. So you might want to consider a lower per shoe budget for at least a few shoes if you're revamping everything.
It's sacrilege to many folks, but I'm actually moving away from the more rigid and formal Goodyear welt to more Stitchdown and Blake welted shoes. Years of cycling, soccer and rock climbing shoes have left my feet sensitive to uncomfortable shoes, and sadly, GYW seems to always be uncomfortable for me.
Alden makes one shoe, the Indy boot that I like. All the rest are a strong meh. I haven't been impressed with any of my Allen Edmonds or their resoling. Rancourts work great for me and I'll definitely be getting more. I've got a fifteen year old set of MiUSA J&M's that are my one pair of truly comfy GYW shoes. I will likely pick up a pair of the newer Oak Street Bootmaker Bluchers to try out.
I resole about every eighteen to twenty four months and have a good local cobbler and don't see the value in sending them back to the manufacturer after comparing results. But it's still handy if you're somewhere that you don't have a good shop. I do find that v tread and Dainite soles greatly extend the life of soles and, of course, work much better in inclement weather, I'm slowly migrating to about 50/50 plain vs all weather soles.
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Post by devastitis on Jun 27, 2016 11:30:44 GMT -6
I am looking for some quality dress shoes to last me the next 10-20 years as I have been just wearing the cheapo Macys brands and replacing every year or so since they don't last. I looked on SF and reddit but wanted a laid back forum to hear from. I have a high instep/wide waist/low arch type of foot. Most of my previous and current dress shoes are the dreaded squarish or round wide toe area as I need it. I was looking at Johnston & Murphy made in USA as I could just bart to Union Square and get sized there and order online. Not sure if Aldens or AE is still worth it after reading some threads on SF. I do have Aldens to stop by if I wanted to get fitted as well. Are their any MTO similar to Truman boots? Don't really want china made unless it really is great. Looking to spend $300-500? Black/light brown colors so I can swap between all my suits. if you're going to wear them primarily or exclusively with suits, why not get bals?
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 11:50:35 GMT -6
He's been rocking Macy square toes, doubt he's gonna immediately start crashing formal dinner parties. Keep it versatile, unless you really need oxfords
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Post by devastitis on Jun 27, 2016 12:16:20 GMT -6
He's been rocking Macy square toes, doubt he's gonna immediately start crashing formal dinner parties. Keep it versatile, unless you really need oxfords well..probably. But if you're going to rec him to get 5 pairs, I'd hope at least one or two are nice formal balmorals.
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Post by drewcandraw on Jun 27, 2016 12:20:47 GMT -6
I wear suit about 5-10x a year and mostly likely the next purchase will just be used for that as its for formal dinner parties, weddings, and interviews. Unless I do get into the new career I was thinking of, not much wear yearly. Just want something of better quality, fit and not out of style.
I do my weekly Nordstrom Rack/Nordstrom rounds and all the dress shoes I see/tried on in my general sizes are either too narrow, instep too tight, or just plain ugly.
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Post by devastitis on Jun 27, 2016 12:23:56 GMT -6
I wear suit about 5-10x a year and mostly likely the next purchase will just be used for that as its for formal dinner parties, weddings, and interviews. Unless I do get into the new career I was thinking of, not much wear yearly. Just want something of better quality, fit and not out of style. I do my weekly Nordstrom Rack/Nordstrom rounds and all the dress shoes I see/tried on in my general sizes are either too narrow, instep too tight, or just plain ugly. so you tried on AEs? What was your measured brannock at Nordstrom?
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Post by drewcandraw on Jun 27, 2016 12:31:06 GMT -6
they only have one model at nordstrom, the park avenue (cap toe I think). I'm a 9.5 brannock. It felt really narrow when i tried a pair on.
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Post by devastitis on Jun 27, 2016 12:39:35 GMT -6
they only have one model at nordstrom, the park avenue (cap toe I think). I'm a 9.5 brannock. It felt really narrow when i tried a pair on. they didn't have different widths?
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 12:40:37 GMT -6
they only have one model at nordstrom, the park avenue (cap toe I think). I'm a 9.5 brannock. It felt really narrow when i tried a pair on. Their shoes tend to run narrow, but the PA is one of the wider lasts. They'll either try to get you into a half size larger or an E width, or both. Best to just avoid their uncomfortable foot crushers. PA's aren't a 100% MiUSA model either, should you care.
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 12:41:28 GMT -6
they only have one model at nordstrom, the park avenue (cap toe I think). I'm a 9.5 brannock. It felt really narrow when i tried a pair on. And welcome to the 9.5 club. If you like fuzzy boots, sit back and wait for D to take inventory.
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 12:44:54 GMT -6
He's been rocking Macy square toes, doubt he's gonna immediately start crashing formal dinner parties. Keep it versatile, unless you really need oxfords well..probably. But if you're going to rec him to get 5 pairs, I'd hope at least one or two are nice formal balmorals. Meh, I've been in the oxford/bal camp and in the blucher camp and really don't see the point of oxfords outside of black tie. I'm fine with a slightly less formal shoe with a suit. I'm also the sort of heathen that doesn't hesitate to roll red Dainite soles with a suit. Of course I've also pretty much stopped wearing suits unless someone's shuffled off this mortal coil and such.
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Post by exophobe on Jun 27, 2016 13:00:13 GMT -6
I am looking for some quality dress shoes to last me the next 10-20 years as I have been just wearing the cheapo Macys brands and replacing every year or so since they don't last. I looked on SF and reddit but wanted a laid back forum to hear from. I have a high instep/wide waist/low arch type of foot. Most of my previous and current dress shoes are the dreaded squarish or round wide toe area as I need it. I was looking at Johnston & Murphy made in USA as I could just bart to Union Square and get sized there and order online. Not sure if Aldens or AE is still worth it after reading some threads on SF. I do have Aldens to stop by if I wanted to get fitted as well. Are their any MTO similar to Truman boots? Don't really want china made unless it really is great. Looking to spend $300-500? Black/light brown colors so I can swap between all my suits. You're looking to spend 300-500 on each pair or for both? The thing I try to remind people is that you're currently spending about $100 a year, and if you want something to last at least ten times as long, adjust your investment accordingly. Make sure it's something that can be resoled, since you'll burn through a lot of those with that period of time. After that it comes down to whether or not the leather holds up, at which point you want to be dealing with an experienced manufacturer that's building shoes with longevity in mind and not cutting corners because "most people won't notice".
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Post by stinky on Jun 27, 2016 13:03:07 GMT -6
You mention MiC, but don't totally rule it out . . . These guys make 360 GYW shoes with an Alden silhouette, quality leathers, and a significantly reduced price. The bluchers look great: grantstoneshoes.com/collections/allI'm considering a pair of the Dune longwings.
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Post by drewcandraw on Jun 27, 2016 14:32:12 GMT -6
exophobe talking about each so if i could do $600 for two that would be a steal, if not I would buy a pair in black first. stinky at that price point what other places should I be looking at as well. I do like that there is free 2 way shipping. I do like how the mention wider forefoot which is important to me. devastitis they only had a D width at the smaller nordstroms I visited so they did as bentin said and tried to size me from a 9 to 10. (9 was tiny, 9.5 could have been perfect but too narrow, 10 was too long). I guess I'm just looking bang for the buck with a great fit if I put everything into perspective as I won't be wearing it as much as other people on the boards here. 95% of the time I'm wearing jeans or basketball shorts along with bball shoes/vans or a rotation of my boots.
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Post by bentin on Jun 27, 2016 14:35:06 GMT -6
If you don't have to wear the boring AF work-a-day shoes like some of us, try the loud Trickers or similar. Much more versatile with jeans and khakis and still fine for 99% of suit worthy events. Maybe not funerals though, at least if you liked the dearly departed.
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Post by exophobe on Jun 27, 2016 15:38:55 GMT -6
There have been some good options popping up on Kickstarter for good Italian feet stuffs at reasonable prices, so if any of those guys manage to pull their s together and get things moving they may be a good option for some semi-formal options made the right way. Since you're looking for stuff that lasts I'd find someone with a history and a long-standing purchase order on leather. They all produce duds from time to time, but for long term a good place to start is finding companies with a good warranty and a lot of reviews talking about how good they are at honoring that warranty. I haven't had the money to invest in lifetime shoes (though I've pulled together some workboots) so I don't have any specific options, but as (I think) bentin was getting at, you may be better off getting several pairs and giving them more time off between wears so they last longer and don't require as significant an investment.
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