Hobbs
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Post by Hobbs on Oct 18, 2014 13:48:51 GMT -6
we should still anticipate having them stretch up to an inch like most denim right?
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 15:08:47 GMT -6
For fit on my LD's, I originally ordered a 33 in relaxed straight - I'm a 33 slim in Gustin. After speaking (chatting with Roman) where I told him I normally ordered a 33.5 waist with the expectation it would stretch 1 inch, he told me to go with a 34. I subsequently switched to the slim straight style in a 34 based on the fit guide. Haven't received them yet, but I'm comfortable with what I ordered.
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Post by ickes on Oct 18, 2014 15:15:57 GMT -6
For fit on my LD's, I originally ordered a 33 in relaxed straight - I'm a 33 slim in Gustin. After speaking (chatting with Roman) where I told him I normally ordered a 33.5 waist with the expectation it would stretch 1 inch, he told me to go with a 34. I subsequently switched to the slim straight style in a 34 based on the fit guide. Haven't received them yet, but I'm comfortable with what I ordered. this does not make sense to me. Why would he recommend you buy a size that is 0.5" larger than what fits you? |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 18, 2014 15:18:36 GMT -6
Because Gustin is a half size larger so if he chose a 33 it would be a full size to small
Gustin 33 measures 33.5 & he needs that to stretch a full size so with LD he can go with a TTS 34 & get stretch out of those.
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Post by Winterland on Oct 18, 2014 15:28:00 GMT -6
I can understand some sizing confusion over the way Lawless tells how to measure on the website. Some customers are getting other specific first hand directions etc. We have reached out to them for some clarification. Will post or they will post when we find out In the meantime lets not get all crazed  over sizing as we know sometimes kinks have to be worked out by any newer company. There have been some posts that are making things more confusing. I am sure any sizing issues will be taken care of if items were ordered with an incorrect understanding of what size to specify. The first order to be posted here has fit just fine. Breathe everyone.... |
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Post by ickes on Oct 18, 2014 15:28:23 GMT -6
oh I see, I misread the post the first time.
Ok, so yeah then...I'm a 32 straight in G so in LD I guess I should go 33.
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 15:30:39 GMT -6
Matt - it's for the exact reason DD mentioned. A 33 would be exactly 33 inches and 0.5 an inch too small for me. With the 34, I'll only have to stretch them 0.5 an inch. That's the plan anyway! If I recall, you take a 32 in G, which would be exactly 32.5 inches. If you only stretch yours 1/2 an inch, I'd go with a 32 in LD. If you buy a 32 in G and need an inch of stretch, you may be better with a 33.
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Post by ickes on Oct 18, 2014 15:31:59 GMT -6
I can understand some sizing confusion over the way Lawless tells how to measure on the website. Some customers are getting other specific first hand directions etc. We have reached out to them for some clarification. Will post or they will post when we find out In the meantime lets not get all crazed over sizing as we know sometimes kinks have to be worked out by any newer company. I am sure any sizing issues will be taken care of if items were ordered with an incorrect understanding of what size to specify. The first order to be posted here has fit just fine. Breathe everyone.... Well, I understand what you're saying but I've got 400 bucks invested in Lawless from the KS so I want to be certain I'm measuring and ordering correctly. I'm not panicking at this point but I'm damn sure not going to piss away 400 bucks. |
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 15:32:16 GMT -6
We posted at the same time - you got it
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 15:35:19 GMT -6
I can understand some sizing confusion over the way Lawless tells how to measure on the website. Some customers are getting other specific first hand directions etc. We have reached out to them for some clarification. Will post or they will post when we find out In the meantime lets not get all crazed over sizing as we know sometimes kinks have to be worked out by any newer company. I am sure any sizing issues will be taken care of if items were ordered with an incorrect understanding of what size to specify. The first order to be posted here has fit just fine. Breathe everyone.... Well, I understand what you're saying but I've got 400 bucks invested in Lawless from the KS so I want to be certain I'm measuring and ordering correctly. I'm not panicking at this point but I'm damn sure not going to piss away 400 bucks. I don't blame you Matt - I think I've got it right based on how Roman does the sizing. It's a true size so 33 would be 33 inches. |
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Post by stinky on Oct 18, 2014 15:36:13 GMT -6
I can understand some sizing confusion over the way Lawless tells how to measure on the website. Some customers are getting other specific first hand directions etc. We have reached out to them for some clarification. Will post or they will post when we find out In the meantime lets not get all crazed over sizing as we know sometimes kinks have to be worked out by any newer company. I am sure any sizing issues will be taken care of if items were ordered with an incorrect understanding of what size to specify. The first order to be posted here has fit just fine. Breathe everyone.... Well, I understand what you're saying but I've got 400 bucks invested in Lawless from the KS so I want to be certain I'm measuring and ordering correctly. I'm not panicking at this point but I'm damn sure not going to piss away 400 bucks. Why don't you see if Roman can deliver one pair and put the rest on hold until you confirm sizing of pair #1? I'm holding out on ordering additional pairs until I get pair #1 for this exact reason. I know you're probably short on jeans and all so you probably have nothing to wear until these come in . . .  |
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Post by ickes on Oct 18, 2014 15:42:00 GMT -6
Matt - it's for the exact reason DD mentioned. A 33 would be exactly 33 inches and 0.5 an inch too small for me. With the 34, I'll only have to stretch them 0.5 an inch. That's the plan anyway! If I recall, you take a 32 in G, which would be exactly 32.5 inches. If you only stretch yours 1/2 an inch, I'd go with a 32 in LD. If you buy a 32 in G and need an inch of stretch, you may be better with a 33. That's exactly where I'm at man, kind of between a 32 and 33 in Lawless and that was my thinking from day one. But then Unnamed posted his Lawless and said he's a 32 straight G and he ordered a 34 in LD, and people were referring to the video measure guide (which I ignored  which said to measure your actual waist and use that measurement...so that all threw me off. If I did that I would need a 35 or so...and that's just not realistic. I'll stick with my 32/33 strategy. |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 18, 2014 15:42:38 GMT -6
unnamed...I was wondering if you received an e-mail notification that the jeans were on their way? Ickes...this is copy/pasted from my e-mails between me and Laura at Lawless for yours and every ones benefit. Hi Laura, Well, I'll try to keep it short. I used to wear Levi's 511 in 32 x 34. The last year I've bought my first selvedge denim jeans from Gustin in a 31 x 34 slim fit. The waist on the Gustin denim have stretched 1 1/2" and fit well. My waist actually is a 33" but I sized down to allow for some stretch. I hope this helps, if you have any other questions, feel free to e-mail. By the way, I appreciate the fact that you asked me, shows great care for the customer. Thanks! Hi Derek, Thank you for that information it is extremely helpful! That being said, I’m going to go ahead and modify your paperwork to reflect your true 33” waist. Our team here is extremely talented and takes the time to make adjustments during the cutting process to accommodate the stretch and give depending on which fabric our customers choose. I hope this answers any questions you may have regarding any future purchases from Lawless  Laura H The part that hits home is were she says that they accommodate for the particular fabric... hope this helps someone |
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 15:43:29 GMT -6
Matt - great suggestion by stinky if you're worried which I don't blame you. I saw Roman post on kickstarter that you better get your size right because once they're made, they can't do anything about it. Having said that, I believe they measure true to the waist size, so a 33 is a 33. If you need a bit of stretch because you're really a 33.5, go with a 33. If you're really a 34 go with a 34 because a 33 would be too small. I did switch styles because of the to a slim-straight because the relaxed slim in a 34 would have been baggy in places on me.
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Post by ickes on Oct 18, 2014 16:08:34 GMT -6
Thanks a lot for the input fellas!!
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Post by Griffin on Oct 18, 2014 17:07:40 GMT -6
omg does this mean im gonna have to get a 36 in LS? This is getting out of control But yeah....you are what you eat and I love to eat. But ok im a 35 slim in Gustin and they are a little tight in the waist in the start so I guess I stretch them out from 35.5 to 36. So 36 then? Im simply not gonna measure my waist, no...Id rather take the cost of no return. The measuretape isnt even gonna fit around me so yeah  |
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Post by jray on Oct 18, 2014 17:22:57 GMT -6
Griffin - I would measure your already stretched G's and if they're over 36 inches, i'd get a 36. A 35 with lawless will mean you have to stretch them at least 1 inch. It's possible, but you may not like the outcome. Just my opinion.
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Post by matt on Oct 19, 2014 10:32:23 GMT -6
Regarding the sizing - and I hope this doesn't add any confusion, but here's what I did:
I measured my 4-5 best fitting pairs of Gustins
- (average weight of denim 12-16.5 oz)
- Waist measurements (all stock 33 slim): 34.5", 34.5", 34", 33.5", 34"
Went in for a measurement at Lawless and they measured me at 34". So true sizing is exactly that.
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Post by ickes on Oct 19, 2014 12:00:02 GMT -6
Thanks Matt. Yeah I'm pretty confident now that a 33 will be my LD size but I think a 32 would work also but would just require more stretching. We shall see.
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Post by edol on Nov 1, 2014 5:17:36 GMT -6
Hi huys,
I have dome doubts regarding sizing with lawless. I wear 32 slim on Gustin, but they are a little snug on the waist, still trying to add that little extra stretch, 31 on Apc new Standard that are my best fitting jeans (They now measure 34'' in the waist). I asked lawless for some info and they told me to go by my true waist size, 34''. This is complety different from the Gustin sizing method. Should i go true to size then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 5:30:57 GMT -6
Hi huys, I have dome doubts regarding sizing with lawless. I wear 32 slim on Gustin, but they are a little snug on the waist, still trying to add that little extra stretch, 31 on Apc new Standard that are my best fitting jeans (They now measure 34'' in the waist). I asked lawless for some info and they told me to go by my true waist size, 34''. This is complety different from the Gustin sizing method. Should i go true to size then? I think the people who would know best have already answered you. If you heard it from the horse's mouth and don't trust Roman's answer, you surely shouldn't trust anyone here in the community. |
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Post by edol on Nov 1, 2014 6:48:58 GMT -6
Hi huys, I have dome doubts regarding sizing with lawless. I wear 32 slim on Gustin, but they are a little snug on the waist, still trying to add that little extra stretch, 31 on Apc new Standard that are my best fitting jeans (They now measure 34'' in the waist). I asked lawless for some info and they told me to go by my true waist size, 34''. This is complety different from the Gustin sizing method. Should i go true to size then? I think the people who would know best have already answered you. If you heard it from the horse's mouth and don't trust Roman's answer, you surely shouldn't trust anyone here in the community. Well, it's that i do not trust them, i was just trying to get some more feedback, as i read before in this thread, some go for true size, others size down. I just wanted to read your toughts before making an order. Is very hard to return them living in Europe. Thanks anyway |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 8:26:31 GMT -6
edol not many people have received their denim yet from Lawless. Everyone that has asked has gotten the same info from Roman and Laura from LD about measuring your waist and ordering true to size. Some people opted not to do that after some skepticism like your own. Since my waist falls on a .5" increment, I went the one size below that measurement. Gustin goes by measuring the garment, whereas LD and some other makers recommend measurements from the body. Overall you have to make the decision for yourself, but they did reiterate their sizing methods, that they were TTS, and that they could only take returns for faulty product, not for sizing mistakes on your part. Tough call.
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Post by jray on Nov 1, 2014 8:33:58 GMT -6
edol - I'm a 33 in Gustin but buy that size expecting them to stretch about an inch. As such, a 33 in LD would likely be 1/2 inch too small for me so I went with a 34. Hope that helps
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Post by edol on Nov 1, 2014 9:22:16 GMT -6
david;jray
Thank you for your inputs, taking them in consideration and what was suggested by lawless i will go with the 34!!
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over sizing as we know sometimes kinks have to be worked out by any newer company. There have been some posts that are making things more confusing. 
which said to measure your actual waist and use that measurement...so that all threw me off. If I did that I would need a 35 or so...and that's just not realistic.
