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Post by brentkuz on Feb 15, 2016 20:26:06 GMT -6
I love my samurai 710xx jeans. They have been my go to pair since fall and some at the end of last winter too march -April.
They have cotton thread and man I am starting to hate cotton thread. Yes it is more authentic but it is by sturdy. Rear pockets, front pocket on the left, crotch seam all are popped. I'm a few months away from blowing the crotch on these.
I understand the switch to poly cotton for jeans especially heavier weight.
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Post by ickes on Feb 16, 2016 10:27:47 GMT -6
I love my samurai 710xx jeans. They have been my go to pair since fall and some at the end of last winter too march -April. They have cotton thread and man I am starting to hate cotton thread. Yes it is more authentic but it is by sturdy. Rear pockets, front pocket on the left, crotch seam all are popped. I'm a few months away from blowing the crotch on these. I understand the switch to poly cotton for jeans especially heavier weight. Yeah this has been my hold up with Flat Head, wasn't aware Sammys used cotton stitching as well. Wonder if Strike Gold uses a poly blend? |
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Post by bentin on Feb 16, 2016 10:44:35 GMT -6
Wonder if Strike Gold uses a poly blend? Nope, cotton. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Feb 16, 2016 10:51:38 GMT -6
I love my samurai 710xx jeans. They have been my go to pair since fall and some at the end of last winter too march -April. They have cotton thread and man I am starting to hate cotton thread. Yes it is more authentic but it is by sturdy. Rear pockets, front pocket on the left, crotch seam all are popped. I'm a few months away from blowing the crotch on these. I understand the switch to poly cotton for jeans especially heavier weight. Yeah this has been my hold up with Flat Head, wasn't aware Sammys used cotton stitching as well. Wonder if Strike Gold uses a poly blend? Sammy uses all cotton. Strike Gold also, which is why I had to get my repaired so quickly on the inner leg. From what I've read, Flat Head has gone away from all cotton construction and is using poly blend thread on high wear areas. |
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Post by Griffin on Feb 16, 2016 13:54:43 GMT -6
Yes yes there is flattys to be had with poly so the time has certainly come!!!!! Join the brotherhood of flatty-purchase!
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 16, 2016 14:51:03 GMT -6
The flat head now uses a blend in high wear areas like rear pockets!
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Post by ickes on Feb 16, 2016 15:09:13 GMT -6
How do we know which Flatheads are cotton and which are cotton/poly?
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 16, 2016 15:56:28 GMT -6
How do we know which Flatheads are cotton and which are cotton/poly? The new issues of 3xxx fabric has been at least with the 3009 and 3005 |
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Post by ickes on Feb 16, 2016 21:03:52 GMT -6
Right, but what I'm saying is how do we know if we are buying the newly issued 3009 and 3005's?
And after checking out Fullcount some more it looks like they are using 100% cotton thread as well. This makes me wonder if my Oni's have 100% cotton thread. This is surprising to me that all of these great Japanese brands are using an all cotton thread.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 16, 2016 22:35:58 GMT -6
Right, but what I'm saying is how do we know if we are buying the newly issued 3009 and 3005's? And after checking out Fullcount some more it looks like they are using 100% cotton thread as well. This makes me wonder if my Oni's have 100% cotton thread. This is surprising to me that all of these great Japanese brands are using an all cotton thread. They do this for the same reason they don't tuck belt loops into the waistband or flat fell the inseam. They reproduce the original designs as faithfully as they can (or want to). The guys over at denimbros could likely better explain it. |
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Post by bentin on Feb 16, 2016 22:45:51 GMT -6
Flat felling is still a bad idea on heavier denims. I prefer lock stitched inseams. But yeah, give me plastic thread and some tough belt loops.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 16, 2016 22:56:46 GMT -6
Flat felling is still a bad idea on heavier denims. I prefer lock stitched inseams. But yeah, give me plastic thread and some tough belt loops. I don't mind breaking out a needle and thread for a minor repair. I'll concede your point when my j21s split down the inseam and I have to drive home in Gustin chaps. |
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Post by Griffin on Feb 17, 2016 2:20:54 GMT -6
lol that would not be very modern of you, but it would be fun if you happened to wear one of those white western shirts that day  |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Feb 17, 2016 7:06:51 GMT -6
Flat felling is still a bad idea on heavier denims. I prefer lock stitched inseams. But yeah, give me plastic thread and some tough belt loops. I don't mind breaking out a needle and thread for a minor repair. I'll concede your point when my j21s split down the inseam and I have to drive home in Gustin chaps. If IH released assless chaps, I know a couple people on here that would buy them immediately.  |
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Post by seth on Feb 17, 2016 7:12:30 GMT -6
Flat felling is still a bad idea on heavier denims. I prefer lock stitched inseams. But yeah, give me plastic thread and some tough belt loops. Tell me why flat felling heavy denim is a bad idea? I know it's harder to do, but I always thought flat felling held together better and was generally better quality than lock stitched inseams. At least in regular pants, it's an indicator of better quality. It's was one of my digs against IH that they don't flat fell the inseam and you can see it wear out soon than it should. |
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Post by Griffin on Feb 17, 2016 8:14:13 GMT -6
Gets too bulky and often creates fadelines through to the outside.
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Post by bentin on Feb 17, 2016 9:23:33 GMT -6
Yep, too bulky, holds th denim too tight which leads to broken stitches faster and is both harder to align properly and harder to alter for tapering, etc. My Okayama Standards have blown up quite a few stitches while cotton thread lock stitched heavier pairs have held up better.
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