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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 14:04:21 GMT -6
Post by devastitis on Jan 26, 2016 14:04:21 GMT -6
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Post by Marc on Jan 26, 2016 15:11:20 GMT -6
Anyone with experience with Meermin? They're from the same family as Carmina, and are priced competitively/more cheaply than Allen Edmonds, while being at about the same quality, if not better, from what I've read. They do GMTOs all the time on their website, and these two boots have my attention. Boots look really nice, but the eye catcher is the price. I have two pair, the first from their higher end linea maestro line. Absolutely beautiful shoes, significantly nicer than Allen Edmonds for the same price. Probably my nicest pair of dress shoes. My second pair is a pair of chukkas from a GMTO order buy, from the regular classic line. Not as nice as the first pair, but obviously significantly cheaper. And I'd say probably on par with AE. Long and short of it, they have great price / quality, so definitely don't hesitate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 15:54:49 GMT -6
Built like a TANK, and the quality/price point can't be beat
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 16:25:40 GMT -6
Post by devastitis on Jan 26, 2016 16:25:40 GMT -6
Built like a TANK, and the quality/price point can't be beat Looks great! I loooooove double monks. I have two. Considering getting a third in either navy calf or navy suede made by Alfred Sargent or Carmina.
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Post by bentin on Jan 26, 2016 16:43:31 GMT -6
Would it surprise anyone to know that I hate double monks? Unless we're talking two bottles of Westvleteren or ABT12...
Maybe I shouldn't be wearing single monks while typing this.
I think they just remind me too much of cycling shoes. Maybe if they had a few bolt holes in the soles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 17:12:35 GMT -6
Cycling shoes remind you too much of time tested design of double monks.....
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 17:28:05 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Jan 26, 2016 17:28:05 GMT -6
Cycling shoes remind you too much of time tested design of double monks..... Sometimes ugly finds a way to take on new forms.
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 17:33:40 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 17:33:40 GMT -6
You're a tough cookie when it comes to fashion, lol!
It's kind of strange that you prefer (the generally agreed upon less attractive) single monks. Single monks are still nice though, especially the Alden shell ones.
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Jan 26, 2016 17:40:13 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Jan 26, 2016 17:40:13 GMT -6
You're a tough cookie when it comes to fashion, lol! It's kind of strange that you prefer (the generally agreed upon less attractive) single monks. Single monks are still nice though, especially the Alden shell ones. Trust me, I'm an arbitrary bastard. I just prefer my dress shoes not to look waterproof.
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 18:50:31 GMT -6
Post by northcoast on Jan 26, 2016 18:50:31 GMT -6
You're a tough cookie when it comes to fashion, lol! It's kind of strange that you prefer (the generally agreed upon less attractive) single monks. Single monks are still nice though, especially the Alden shell ones. I'm with the single monk vote. I've been wanting a nice casual pair for years. I cant get onboard with the double either.
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 19:07:05 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:07:05 GMT -6
I prefer the doubles, because to me they are more stylish and "casual-cool". I'm waiting to get in on a pair of the shell double monks from Meermin, but those MTO Groups go so fast. They pop up while I'm sleeping and are gone by the time I wake up.
***The pic I took has shown me that I am shamefully behind on my shoe maintenance, lol.....
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Jan 26, 2016 19:08:52 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Jan 26, 2016 19:08:52 GMT -6
Good to know they do shell. Is it just the MTO deals?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:18:27 GMT -6
Yes. I only saw them offering shell as ready to wear when they FIRST launched the website. Heads up though, it's NOT Horween; it's the Japanese stuff, "Shinki Hikaku". But, I must say that I've never heard anyone rag on the quality of the Shinki shell except the biggest Horween Alden snobs.
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Post by devastitis on Jan 26, 2016 19:35:15 GMT -6
Their big brother Carmina does Horween shell.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jan 26, 2016 19:51:59 GMT -6
I don't know much about Meermin other than what's already been said. For dress shoes I'd rather pay a premium and get Carmina and or Alden. If I'm going to splurge I'd then go with Vass, Enzo Bonafe, EG and then St. Crispins
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 19:58:59 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 19:58:59 GMT -6
I feel you, but you've REALLY got to see a pair in person to understand how much of a steal they are, ESPECIALLY at this price.
Even at double the price, I think they would STILL be a better quality and deal than Allen Edmonds (I own a couple pairs, one is shell), and possible still better than some Aldens (Being that there are so many rumbling over the past couple of years that Alden quality of build and QA/QC is really becoming hit or miss).
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Jan 26, 2016 20:21:05 GMT -6
Post by devastitis on Jan 26, 2016 20:21:05 GMT -6
I don't know much about Meermin other than what's already been said. For dress shoes I'd rather pay a premium and get Carmina and or Alden. If I'm going to splurge I'd then go with Vass, Enzo Bonafe, EG and then St. Crispins Not many people have the disposable income to go the EG, St. Crispins, Enzo Bonafe route. For most, even Allen Edmonds is pushing the budget. So for most, Meermins/AEs/Loake will be perfectly fine. Shell Carminas and Aldens are my grails, because any more money spent than that, then I know I'm just being irresponsible.
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Meermin
Jan 26, 2016 20:41:53 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 20:41:53 GMT -6
If I were buying "dress shoes" to "dress up" in, I could easily see myself splurging on Alden or Carmina... But, the way my personal life and career are setup right now, I have no need for SERIOUS dresswear, so I'm absolutely fine with the lower end, sub $500 stuff to keep me looking "casual-cool". Boots and workwear on the other hand... THAT is where my cash dump is currently.
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Jan 26, 2016 22:18:12 GMT -6
Post by jeffrx on Jan 26, 2016 22:18:12 GMT -6
Allen Edmonds is made in the USA and is a decent brand. I stick with them for most dress shoes. I do have 4 pairs of Carminas and I have considered Meermin. I've been under the impression that Meermin is Made in China. Is that true? I am also under the impression that Meermin uses cheaper materials than Carmina.
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Jan 26, 2016 23:53:37 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 23:53:37 GMT -6
Contrary to our tangent on the "What are Your Favorite Brands" thread, Meermin is indeed made in China, and seriously those guys are REALLY producing some good work! I mean, REALLY! And, I wouldn't be surprised if Carmina and Meermin are different levels of materials... No way Meermin could produce Horween shell shoes for $400-$500/pair, so they use Shinki Hikaku to keep the prices down. Here's some quick shoe blogger reading, if it at all interests you: www.theshoesnobblog.com/2012/11/meermin-mallorca-review-appreciation.html"Now for those that don’t really know much about Meermin, allow me to explain a little bit. You may have noticed that the owner, Mr. Pepe Albaladejo shares the same surname as the owners of Carmina. This leads most people to believe that they are somehow associated, when in fact the only association between them is ancestry. They have nothing to do with each other and go about things in very different ways. While both brands seemed to have wanted to create the best shoe at the best possible price, Meermin took an approach that was quite different and more risky. What he did was find a workshop/factory in China, went to train them up in order for them to hand-last and hand-welt every shoe in his production. Then once the soles are ready to be put on, they send the shoes back to Spain to have it done on the machines. So in theory, half of the shoe is constructed by hand, but done so in China. This might throw some people off, but if the quality of the work is good, it should not really matter where it was done, so long as it is done right. And because the labor in China is much lower than anywhere else, this allows for Meermin to control his prices and offer something much lower than most, for a shoe that is hand grade and even more. Good business? I think so….." -TheShoeSnobBlog
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Meermin
Jan 27, 2016 7:01:20 GMT -6
Post by gaseousclay on Jan 27, 2016 7:01:20 GMT -6
Not many people have the disposable income to go the EG, St. Crispins, Enzo Bonafe route. For most, even Allen Edmonds is pushing the budget. So for most, Meermins/AEs/Loake will be perfectly fine. Shell Carminas and Aldens are my grails, because any more money spent than that, then I know I'm just being irresponsible. YMMV. I rarely have the need to dress up and I view my Alden shell purchase as an investment and something that will cover all manner of formality, but I bought mine in 2010 before Alden jacked their prices a few times. Pricewise, Enz o Bonafe is in Alden territory, with their shell offerings being slightly more expensive, and then EG and then St.Crispins being at the top of the shoe food chain. Yes, they're expensive for dress shoes but I would make the argument that instead of buying 2 or 3 pairs of low to mid range dress shoes you could buy St.Crispins. Also, Vass is a handwelted shoe and considered at the same level of quality as Enzo Bonafe and Carmina, maybe even better by some, and they're affordable. I've never liked Allen Edmonds. I found their style kinda sloppy, plus I don't think all of their shoes are made in the US. I believe some are made in the Dominican Republic.
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Meermin
Jan 27, 2016 9:19:03 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Jan 27, 2016 9:19:03 GMT -6
Yeah, AE is a little devious about the Made in USA thing. I understand that only the Independence / Liberty whatnot is 100% US made and even their shell isn't.
Sadly, I'm out on Meermin because of the Chinese production. Too many other options from other countries.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jan 27, 2016 9:34:19 GMT -6
Yeah, AE is a little devious about the Made in USA thing. I understand that only the Independence / Liberty whatnot is 100% US made and even their shell isn't. Imagine how many customers Alden would lose if they off-shored production of their shoes. At least their entire line is US made, and they don't have to announce it in advertising campaigns to every Tom, Dick & Harry.
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