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Post by Old26 on Jan 24, 2016 19:19:26 GMT -6
Shinola and Benrus both piss me off. Using american heritage as a selling point but the company barely makes a foot print in the USA. Waiting for someone to out there money where there mouth is for american made watches. Rgm is awesome but not widely produced at all. Yeah, agree there. They're doing something, but I think it's supposed to justify the prices. It's a real boutique store, and even though they are in swankier areas, I wonder if they will succeed. My son tried to get a gig there, but the manager was a douche-bag. I thought it would be fun though as it has some neat stuff there... |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 24, 2016 19:20:33 GMT -6
I will say I had a pair of fake Jordan's when I was younger and they held up better than a real pair of Jordan's I bought at foot
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 19:42:38 GMT -6
Shinola and Benrus both piss me off. Using american heritage as a selling point but the company barely makes a foot print in the USA. Waiting for someone to out there money where there mouth is for american made watches. Rgm is awesome but not widely produced at all. Shinola is American owned and employs people in the USA. Good by me. Using your reasoning the Japan brands should really piss you off. They use American heritage names, logos etc. (maybe they pay for it) and tags that say "union made". |
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Post by Old26 on Jan 24, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -6
Shinola and Benrus both piss me off. Using american heritage as a selling point but the company barely makes a foot print in the USA. Waiting for someone to out there money where there mouth is for american made watches. Rgm is awesome but not widely produced at all. Shinola is American owned and employs people in the USA. Good by me. Using your reasoning the Japan brands should really piss you off. They use American heritage names, logos etc. (maybe they pay for it) and tags that say "union made". They license a lot of stuff properly, which of course is OK. Shinola does employ Americans and I too am good with that. Part of doing a proper repop includes the union tags. American companies do that as well. Some share the rights to brands, or I should say, they have agreements to allow others to use them. I know that Good Wear and Aero do that as well as others. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 24, 2016 20:13:52 GMT -6
Shinola and Benrus both piss me off. Using american heritage as a selling point but the company barely makes a foot print in the USA. Waiting for someone to out there money where there mouth is for american made watches. Rgm is awesome but not widely produced at all. Shinola is American owned and employs people in the USA. Good by me. Using your reasoning the Japan brands should really piss you off. They use American heritage names, logos etc. (maybe they pay for it) and tags that say "union made". They both are american owned and employe Americans no doubt. But they would be hiring many more Americans if they were house made movements and completely crafted in the USA. Benrus completely puts out how american they are with all the heritage factors. But they are low end quartz movements and not american made. Same gripe with levis, lee, wrangler. And that isn't using my logic at all. They are a foreign brand from the get go, not American. American brand Japanese brand Completely different @61scout I'm not anti globalization at all. I love Italian, Irish, Norwegian, Japanese brands. But they don't claim to be american. It would be like Aran crafts making the Irish fisherman sweaters in Singapore and claiming 150 years of Irish heritage in every sweater! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 20:38:29 GMT -6
I just don't follow the thinking. Start a company in the us, employ Americans and still not good enough. You can't please everyone. What you suggest isn't economically feasible.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 24, 2016 20:49:33 GMT -6
I just don't follow the thinking. Start a company in the us, employ Americans and still not good enough. You can't please everyone. What you suggest isn't economically feasible. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because the USA is royally f*cked and I would wager that a major collapse is coming here. There is no way to go from the #1 producer and employer and anything else good to what we are now. There are fewer and fewer people with good jobs - middle class jobs - and the top 1-5% will not be able to sustain here for much longer. If the goal was to bring the US down to the level of the third world, we're well on our way, in spite of the BS numbers that get reported on the news here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 21:37:02 GMT -6
So start prepping now?
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Post by Old26 on Jan 24, 2016 21:52:51 GMT -6
Dunno. Depends on what ya got. What you can do. Etc. |
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Post by kylepa on Jan 24, 2016 23:25:16 GMT -6
Denim - Rogue Territory Chinos - Gustin Work Shirts - tough one. Freenote Cloth for non-denim, Lawless (say what you will but they made a truly amazing denim shirt) for denim. Dress shirts - Taylor Stitch T-shirts - Gustin Boots - Red Wing. But I'd kill to get my hands on some Alden jumpersSocks - Richer Poorer (but I need to try other brands, esp American trench) Jackets - Filson tied with Freenote Cloth Bags - Filson I have no MiUSA knits but I'm eyeing American Trench and Homespun Knitwear Doesn't this violate the hippocratic oath? Hmmmm... I'm trying to understand but maybe my brain finally broke. |
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Post by devastitis on Jan 24, 2016 23:44:14 GMT -6
Doesn't this violate the hippocratic oath? Hmmmm... I'm trying to understand but maybe my brain finally broke. The joke is that you work in the medical field, and the Hippocratic oath prohibits you from doing harm, in this case, for a pair of Alden jumpers. |
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Post by kylepa on Jan 24, 2016 23:51:10 GMT -6
Hmmmm... I'm trying to understand but maybe my brain finally broke. The joke is that you work in the medical field, and the Hippocratic oath prohibits you from doing harm, in this case, for a pair of Alden jumpers. My brain did break. How about - I'd administer a lethal dose of morphine to a terminally ill patient in chronic pain - to get my hands on some Alden jumpers. |
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Post by devastitis on Jan 24, 2016 23:54:54 GMT -6
The joke is that you work in the medical field, and the Hippocratic oath prohibits you from doing harm, in this case, for a pair of Alden jumpers. My brain did break. How about - I'd administer a lethal dose of morphine to a terminally ill patient in chronic pain - to get my hands on some Alden jumpers. Sounds legit. But, again, have you seen the Carminas? |
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Post by kylepa on Jan 25, 2016 0:37:14 GMT -6
My brain did break. How about - I'd administer a lethal dose of morphine to a terminally ill patient in chronic pain - to get my hands on some Alden jumpers. Sounds legit. But, again, have you seen the Carminas? I did. Those are damn pretty. Rubber sole though? Regardless, those are a consideration if I can't find Aldens at a decent price. |
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Post by devastitis on Jan 25, 2016 0:59:58 GMT -6
Sounds legit. But, again, have you seen the Carminas? I did. Those are damn pretty. Rubber sole though? Regardless, those are a consideration if I can't find Aldens at a decent price. the Victoria Sole is supposed to be better than the dainite sole for wet and icy weather, on par with commando. And I think it's classier looking than dainite and commando, and much more durable than plantation crepe or leather. My next dress boot is going to be Carmina. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jan 25, 2016 9:28:06 GMT -6
That's why I like the Japanese - they love Americana, and they make the (some say re-started) work wear out of respect and love for it. They do a damn good job as well, and it's 100% legit to do what they do. If only those bastards would make some in my size! once upon a time Japanese consumer goods were considered garbage. I'm thinking of a lot of the post-war stuff going into the 60's and 70's. I'm half Japanese and spent my youth living in Japan. My dad, who was in the military, would take the occasional trip to South Korea and would buy my brother and I counterfeit shoes. I still have a cheesy blanket with a giant graphic of a lion on it that my dad bought from S.Korea. But yes, the Japanese take their craft very seriously and are meticulous when it comes to quality and detail. |
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Post by Old26 on Jan 25, 2016 9:53:16 GMT -6
That's why I like the Japanese - they love Americana, and they make the (some say re-started) work wear out of respect and love for it. They do a damn good job as well, and it's 100% legit to do what they do. If only those bastards would make some in my size! once upon a time Japanese consumer goods were considered garbage. I'm thinking of a lot of the post-war stuff going into the 60's and 70's. I'm half Japanese and spent my youth living in Japan. My dad, who was in the military, would take the occasional trip to South Korea and would buy my brother and I counterfeit shoes. I still have a cheesy blanket with a giant graphic of a lion on it that my dad bought from S.Korea. But yes, the Japanese take their craft very seriously and are meticulous when it comes to quality and detail. I grew up with grandparents that smirked "Jap-crap" at every turn regarding such things. Took me a long time to get that out of my head, and I think it was in the early 80's when Honda came out and destroyed the US car makers with killer offerings. For the first time, I bough an Accord LX which at the time, had waiting lists and were being sold for $4k OVER sticker! That was the end of the "Jap-crap" era. And I respect them (what I know anyways) for how they came back and did it right... |
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Post by matt on Jan 25, 2016 9:57:51 GMT -6
Did I start this debate just by bringing up my Shinola?
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Post by Old26 on Jan 25, 2016 10:04:25 GMT -6
Did I start this debate just by bringing up my Shinola? On just about every forum Ive been on lately, folks have been pissy. I think it was a good topic... |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 25, 2016 10:10:57 GMT -6
I think we need to keep the political stuff off this board. I for one don't want to come here and see this. Also, smearing entire cultures isn't appropriate, either. I know several Chinese people personally, and I think it is rather wrongheaded to smear an entire people because of their government and their industrial complex, chalking it up to a product of their "culture." I've found that your average Chinese person doesn't agree with the way their goods are produced either, FWIW.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jan 25, 2016 10:14:25 GMT -6
Did I start this debate just by bringing up my Shinola? I don't think so. It may have inadvertently come up when I mentioned RRL being non-US made. I believe Shinola is owned by Bedrock who also own Filson. I've read that the quality of Filson product has gone down and the cost has gone up. Likewise, Canada Goose was acquired by Bain Capital and now their winter coats have shot up in price. |
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Post by Old26 on Jan 25, 2016 10:15:52 GMT -6
I think we need to keep the political stuff off this board. I for one don't want to come here and see this. Also, smearing entire cultures isn't appropriate, either. I know several Chinese people personally, and I think it is rather wrongheaded to smear an entire people because of their government and their industrial complex, chalking it up to a product of their "culture." I've found that your average Chinese person doesn't agree with the way their goods are produced either, FWIW. Of course, but we're talking about business here, not individuals. I have good friends that I worked with at UCLA that were from China and fantastic people. But I won't either deny the crap that goes on in regards to international business and the theft that goes on, while seeing fellow Americans lose their livelihood. Our own government doesn't help and in fact, does the opposite. I don't think anyone here takes the threads and arguments to mean the average person n-country is bad. I've never seen that, and I don't think anyone here believes that is the case... I for one don't like deleting discussions/threads unless it gets out of hand. It's a subject that comes up a lot, in a lot of places. As long as we can discuss without getting personal, I'm OK with it. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 25, 2016 10:17:45 GMT -6
So, back to favorite brands...
Denim: Oni, IH, Flathead
Casual Shirts: Taylor Stitch, J.Crew
Dress Shirts: Brooks Brothers
Dress Pants: Brooks Brothers, J.Crew
Khakis: Gustin, J.Crew (I also love my Duck Head Cramertons that I had tapered and hemmed)
Jackets: Barbour
Boots: Alden
Sneakers: New Balance, Converse
Dress shoes: Allen Edmonds
Socks: Darn Tough
Belt: Marshdown
Knit Hat: 4C
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Post by Old26 on Jan 25, 2016 10:23:25 GMT -6
So, back to favorite brands... Denim: Oni, IH, Flathead Casual Shirts: Taylor Stitch, J.Crew Dress Shirts: Brooks Brothers Dress Pants: Brooks Brothers, J.Crew Khakis: Gustin, J.Crew (I also love my Duck Head Cramertons that I had tapered and hemmed) Jackets: Barbour Boots: Alden Dress shoes: Allen Edmonds Socks: Darn Tough Belt: Marshdown Knit Hat: 4C Denim: Gustin, Levis Casual Shirts: RRL, Carhartt, JL Powell. Dress Shirts: Calvin Klein, Hugo Boss, whatever Macy's has on sale that fits. Dress Pants: Same as above. Khakis: RRL, GAP Jackets: Aero, Good Wear, Vanson, Lost Worlds, Pike Bros, RRL Boots: Lucchese, Chippewa, Woolrich, Clarks Dress shoes: Stacy Adams, Cole Haan Socks: Darn Tough, Smart Wool Belt: Gustin, Marshdown, Knit Hat: Pike Bros Watch Cap |
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Post by bentin on Jan 25, 2016 10:24:43 GMT -6
So, back to favorite brands... Denim: Oni, IH, Flathead Casual Shirts: Taylor Stitch, J.Crew Dress Shirts: Brooks Brothers Dress Pants: Brooks Brothers, J.Crew Khakis: Gustin, J.Crew (I also love my Duck Head Cramertons that I had tapered and hemmed) Jackets: Barbour Boots: Alden Sneakers: New Balance, Converse Dress shoes: Allen Edmonds Socks: Darn Tough Belt: Marshdown Knit Hat: 4C We need to get you out of that BB stuff. So many better options. Having said that, I just blew out an elbow on a BB shirt I'd had for 20 years. Damn thing wouldn't die. |
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