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Post by stinky on Nov 16, 2016 13:18:15 GMT -6
I won't do a write-up, because there just isn't much more I can say about this man's skills except "He's still getting BETTER!" As good as my engineers are, the construction is notably better... Could just appear that way, because these definitely were more "technical" in the design and construction. Beautiful boots. Although, I've always wondered why bootmakers choose to use these one-piece eyelets. I don't understand why they don't use the more refined two-piece one that are smooth on the back as well. These things, like the eyelets in all of my Tricker's boots, chew up laces quickly. Perhaps the boots are loss leaders and they make their real money on replacement laces . . .
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Post by northcoast on Nov 16, 2016 14:38:25 GMT -6
I won't do a write-up, because there just isn't much more I can say about this man's skills except "He's still getting BETTER!" As good as my engineers are, the construction is notably better... Could just appear that way, because these definitely were more "technical" in the design and construction. Beautiful boots. Although, I've always wondered why bootmakers choose to use these one-piece eyelets. I don't understand why they don't use the more refined two-piece one that are smooth on the back as well. These things, like the eyelets in all of my Tricker's boots, chew up laces quickly. Perhaps the boots are loss leaders and they make their real money on replacement laces . . . (rushes home to look at his boots...........) Man, that might be why my White's have chewed up laces in spots. THanks for the mental note to ask for this next pair I order.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 4:37:59 GMT -6
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 7:30:22 GMT -6
Those are interesting. I was initally thinking of jungle boots. Design wise, I have difficulty with outdoors boots, that are not cowboy sytle, with no tread. How do they feel walking around? I'm imagining the uppers lace up pretty snug.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 7:39:12 GMT -6
I'm actually going to buy some inserts to get a more snug fit, because right now, they don't fit tight enough (How I think a boot should fit) unless I'm wearing my most thick socks I own.
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Post by stinky on Nov 17, 2016 8:27:44 GMT -6
Non-lace-murdering eyelets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:27:20 GMT -6
I was initally thinking of jungle boots. So, these boots ARE actually modeled after the ORIGINAL "jungle boots" that were issued in Okinawa, Japan to the US Forces that were en route to Vietnam.....
www.mooremilitaria.com/okinawa-boots-10d.html
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 9:34:30 GMT -6
I was initally thinking of jungle boots. So, these boots ARE actually modeled after the ORIGINAL "jungle boots" that were issued in Okinawa, Japan to the US Forces that were en route to Vietnam.....
www.mooremilitaria.com/okinawa-boots-10d.htmlNice. These are not the cruddy US Army Surplus Jungle boots I wore in the 80's - 90's. Those eventually drove me nuts because the heel wore fast on concrete.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:38:49 GMT -6
There are a few pairs of the OG militaria boots floating around the interwebs..... And I'll tell you, I want a pair. I know where 2 pairs are RIGHT NOW in my size, and I've fiddle-fcuked over buying them for the last few months..... If they survive through Christmas and the month of January, I'll treat myself to a pair come income tax time, I hope.
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 10:22:56 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, this is the exact leather that (American) footballs are made of. Sounds about right. I just bought a pair before they sold out of my size and I regretted not buying them. $25 tin of Venetian Shoe cream thrown in, was a no brainer. I've been wanting some of the English shoes that use Zug leather for awhile now to wear in foul weather. Still would like a pair of derbys in that leather. I think this leather should wear similarly to Zug but may not be quite as waxy. If they don't fit quite right I can always give them to my nephew for his XMAS/Birthday combination. I received a reply from Nick Horween WRT the composition of this leather. - NC NC - Could you tell me what the difference is between zug grain and Scotch Grain Latigo? Nick - They are similar in processing but the Latigo has a higher oil content and tends to be a little mellower (softer). The latigo also develops a more pronounced patina. The grain patterns are similar other than size - the latigo has our “baby scotch” grain in this case, while the Zug is the larger, traditional scotch grain.
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Post by stinky on Nov 17, 2016 10:53:56 GMT -6
Sounds about right. I just bought a pair before they sold out of my size and I regretted not buying them. $25 tin of Venetian Shoe cream thrown in, was a no brainer. I've been wanting some of the English shoes that use Zug leather for awhile now to wear in foul weather. Still would like a pair of derbys in that leather. I think this leather should wear similarly to Zug but may not be quite as waxy. If they don't fit quite right I can always give them to my nephew for his XMAS/Birthday combination. I received a reply from Nick Horween WRT the composition of this leather. - NC NC - Could you tell me what the difference is between zug grain and Scotch Grain Latigo? Nick - They are similar in processing but the Latigo has a higher oil content and tends to be a little mellower (softer). The latigo also develops a more pronounced patina. The grain patterns are similar other than size - the latigo has our “baby scotch” grain in this case, while the Zug is the larger, traditional scotch grain. Ah, good to know. I have a pair of tricker's zug/scotch grain. unlike the latigo, the scotch grain has a very plasticky look that takes a long time to go away. They look great now and keep getting better, but the first 6 month of wear, I kept thinking that I was wearing brown rubber rain boots. I took this pic about a year ago (note: these are zug, but not veldtschoen [waterproof]):
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 12:25:34 GMT -6
I received a reply from Nick Horween WRT the composition of this leather. - NC NC - Could you tell me what the difference is between zug grain and Scotch Grain Latigo? Nick - They are similar in processing but the Latigo has a higher oil content and tends to be a little mellower (softer). The latigo also develops a more pronounced patina. The grain patterns are similar other than size - the latigo has our “baby scotch” grain in this case, while the Zug is the larger, traditional scotch grain. Ah, good to know. I have a pair of tricker's zug/scotch grain. unlike the latigo, the scotch grain has a very plasticky look that takes a long time to go away. They look great now and keep getting better, but the first 6 month of wear, I kept thinking that I was wearing brown rubber rain boots. I took this pic about a year ago (note: these are zug, but not veldtschoen [waterproof]): Those look nice, and I could see where that would get annoying till they mellowed. Yeah, I was kind of hoping that this would be good winter wear, and it seems they will, just not quite as good as scotch grain. But man, English scotch grain is expensive. > (note: these are zug, but not veldtschoen [waterproof]): See, I thought the veldtschoen just meant how the uppers were attached. https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/3ifocw/some_questions_about_veldtschoen_boots_and_their/
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Post by stinky on Nov 17, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -6
> (note: these are zug, but not veldtschoen [waterproof]): See, I thought the veldtschoen just meant how the uppers were attached. https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/3ifocw/some_questions_about_veldtschoen_boots_and_their/ yes, you are correct--most veldtschoen boots are zug grain as well, but not all.
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Post by unnamed on Nov 17, 2016 14:37:00 GMT -6
Those are some seriously cool boots. The fabric reminds me of the old selvedge duck that was used to make duffle bags.
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 15:15:55 GMT -6
Those are some seriously cool boots. The fabric reminds me of the old selvedge duck that was used to make duffle bags. Yeah, it looks exactly like the 'Nam duffle bag I have from my Dad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 15:46:15 GMT -6
I'm 90% sure it's the same fabric as the OG duffle cloth. Feels the same, smells the same, and creases the same. Also frays fairly easy, like the duffles
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Post by northcoast on Nov 17, 2016 15:52:16 GMT -6
I'm 90% sure it's the same fabric as the OG duffle cloth. Feels the same, smells the same, and creases the same. Also frays fairly easy, like the duffles Smells the same...... those stanky, musty, low notes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 17:43:47 GMT -6
With a hint of petroleum lol
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Post by northcoast on Nov 22, 2016 10:16:55 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 10:29:12 GMT -6
I don't know why people here don't talk about Meermin very much..... They are AMAZING quality (I have a pair of calf double monks, and they put my Allen Edmonds to shame), and they're SO CHEAP!!!!!
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Post by gaseousclay on Nov 22, 2016 21:00:28 GMT -6
I don't know why people here don't talk about Meermin very much..... They are AMAZING quality (I have a pair of calf double monks, and they put my Allen Edmonds to shame), and they're SO CHEAP!!!!! To be fair, most European brands put AE to shame.
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Post by toolonginexile on Nov 22, 2016 21:25:09 GMT -6
I could not resist......and now the long wait commences
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Post by devastitis on Nov 22, 2016 23:54:39 GMT -6
I resisted the green shell boots, whiskey shell boots, and now burgundy shell boots. If navy shell comes around, not sure I'll do so well.
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Post by madmoses on Nov 23, 2016 9:02:42 GMT -6
You guys just opened my eyes, and my wallet, to Meermin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:04:00 GMT -6
The MTO prices are great, and the ready made prices are EVEN BETTER.....
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