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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 21:51:13 GMT -6
yikes. that's a big shirt for you. you need xxl then. still avail direct in that size. Am I wrong thinking these are pretty long flannels? It's about an inch and a half longer than my IHSH-101 in the arms and length. Is the length perfect for you? IIRC I think you're 3 or 4 inches taller than me. The vertical length is on par with the IH 127's, at least in my size. The sleeves are quite a bit longer though. |
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Post by gsg on Dec 23, 2015 21:55:15 GMT -6
I second that, I own it. The fit on the shadow selvedge type III is pretty tight. I am usually an M size on most brands and I had to go with an L for the type III, I would say you need to size up. The arms are specially a tight fit, you could barely wear anything underneath the jacket like a sweater without feeling constricted. It is a very nice jacket and the fabric fades amazingly.
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Post by gsg on Dec 23, 2015 21:56:23 GMT -6
For reference, I am 5.11" and 150 lbs.
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:00:22 GMT -6
Yeah those truckers look great but I would almost need to be a XXXL in the damn thing.... 3sixteen stuff seems to be sized pretty small, it's about on par with IH sizing.
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Post by devastitis on Dec 23, 2015 22:00:37 GMT -6
Am I wrong thinking these are pretty long flannels? It's about an inch and a half longer than my IHSH-101 in the arms and length. Is the length perfect for you? IIRC I think you're 3 or 4 inches taller than me. The vertical length is on par with the IH 127's, at least in my size. The sleeves are quite a bit longer though. Yeah, I was looking at both the 3sixteen measurements and the rivet and hyde measurements, comparing it to the ihsh-101 on IHUK, and the sleeves are about 2" longer, while the vertical length is about 1.5" longer. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:01:11 GMT -6
I like their heavyweight hoodies too. They make some good looking stuff. The only thing I own of theirs right now are their heavyweight T's and they are great T shirts.
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:02:26 GMT -6
The vertical length is on par with the IH 127's, at least in my size. The sleeves are quite a bit longer though. Yeah, I was looking at both the 3sixteen measurements and the rivet and hyde measurements, comparing it to the ihsh-101 on IHUK, and the sleeves are about 2" longer, while the vertical length is about 1.5" longer. The length should be pretty close the length on your IHSH-127's though...no?  |
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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2015 22:05:05 GMT -6
Yeah those truckers look great but I would almost need to be a XXXL in the damn thing.... 3sixteen stuff seems to be sized pretty small, it's about on par with IH sizing. why are you going after such large sizing? the measurements you posted puts you at L in most maker's clothes. you'd be an XL in the type 3s. i went with an xxl and could have sized down. |
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Post by devastitis on Dec 23, 2015 22:12:22 GMT -6
Yeah, I was looking at both the 3sixteen measurements and the rivet and hyde measurements, comparing it to the ihsh-101 on IHUK, and the sleeves are about 2" longer, while the vertical length is about 1.5" longer. The length should be pretty close the length on your IHSH-127's though...no? With the 127s, it's about an inch longer still, but on Rivet and Hyde, it says it should shrink about a .5" all around. I don't know who to believe, because now I'm looking at the 127 for both R&H and IHUK, and IHUK is over an inch longer in vertical length. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:14:10 GMT -6
Yeah those truckers look great but I would almost need to be a XXXL in the damn thing.... 3sixteen stuff seems to be sized pretty small, it's about on par with IH sizing. why are you going after such large sizing? the measurements you posted puts you at L in most maker's clothes. you'd be an XL in the type 3s. i went with an xxl and could have sized down. Not even close bugula. Not sure which fit guide you are looking at but on the 3sixteen website the type 3 in an XL is at 22" in the chest and the shoulders at 18.5"....that would just not even be close to working for me. For that jacket I'd need at least a 47" chest and 19.5" shoulders and a 26" sleeve. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:16:20 GMT -6
And a 47" chest would be bare minimum.....to where I could maybe only wear a form fitting T shirt underneath.
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 22:17:58 GMT -6
The length should be pretty close the length on your IHSH-127's though...no? With the 127s, it's about an inch longer still, but on Rivet and Hyde, it says it should shrink about a .5" all around. I don't know who to believe, because now I'm looking at the 127 for both R&H and IHUK, and IHUK is over an inch longer in vertical length. FWIW I measured the actual length on my 127's in XXL when I got them in and they are both right at 30.5". |
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Post by devastitis on Dec 23, 2015 22:28:40 GMT -6
yeah i've got the blue one as does Bugula I believe. I initially went with a size medium because I assumed there would be zero shrinkage if I did a cold wash/hang dry but it felt a little too fitted, so I exchanged it for a large, which is what I normally wear in other brands, and it's perfect. the red crosscut appears to be sold out everywhere but the blue one seems available in limited sizes. Rivet and Hide has the Red one, but for about $50 more. |
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Post by devastitis on Dec 23, 2015 22:31:33 GMT -6
With the 127s, it's about an inch longer still, but on Rivet and Hyde, it says it should shrink about a .5" all around. I don't know who to believe, because now I'm looking at the 127 for both R&H and IHUK, and IHUK is over an inch longer in vertical length. FWIW I measured the actual length on my 127's in XXL when I got them in and they are both right at 30.5". So right about the same as IHUK. Both theclassroomshop and R&H have the 3Sixteen Crosschecks in XL (R&H has both blue and red), but can't figure out which fit guide to go with. R&H is smaller in length than the 3Sixteen website. gaseousclay can you measure the vertical length and the sleeve length of yours? |
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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2015 22:49:59 GMT -6
And a 47" chest would be bare minimum.....to where I could maybe only wear a form fitting T shirt underneath. confused how that's possible when you have a 42" chest but i guess you wear baggy. i'm a 44 and can comfortably wear flannel and an undershirt under the type 3s. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 23, 2015 23:16:28 GMT -6
And a 47" chest would be bare minimum.....to where I could maybe only wear a form fitting T shirt underneath. confused how that's possible when you have a 42" chest but i guess you wear baggy. i'm a 44 and can comfortably wear flannel and an undershirt under the type 3s. hmmm...I don't know man. I don't think that a chest measurement that's 5-6" over your actual chest size on a jacket is a baggy fit but I guess that's just me. I like to be able to actually move freely in my clothing, maybe some consider that a baggy fit. Either way, with an actual 42" chest I don't see how there's any way a jacket with a 44" chest would work for me. That wouldn't work for me on a shirt. |
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Post by exophobe on Dec 23, 2015 23:30:59 GMT -6
And a 47" chest would be bare minimum.....to where I could maybe only wear a form fitting T shirt underneath. Just get an L and see if you can't Hulk your way out of it.  |
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2015 6:14:36 GMT -6
FWIW I measured the actual length on my 127's in XXL when I got them in and they are both right at 30.5". So right about the same as IHUK. Both theclassroomshop and R&H have the 3Sixteen Crosschecks in XL (R&H has both blue and red), but can't figure out which fit guide to go with. R&H is smaller in length than the 3Sixteen website. gaseousclay can you measure the vertical length and the sleeve length of yours? I'll measure my shirt later today |
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Post by Old26 on Dec 24, 2015 10:04:52 GMT -6
confused how that's possible when you have a 42" chest but i guess you wear baggy. i'm a 44 and can comfortably wear flannel and an undershirt under the type 3s. hmmm...I don't know man. I don't think that a chest measurement that's 5-6" over your actual chest size on a jacket is a baggy fit but I guess that's just me. I like to be able to actually move freely in my clothing, maybe some consider that a baggy fit. Either way, with an actual 42" chest I don't see how there's any way a jacket with a 44" chest would work for me. That wouldn't work for me on a shirt. The "accepted" formula for the most part is this for leather jackets. For me as an example... I were a 48. Jackets should measure 52. 48+4=52/2=26 pit to pit. This won't work for fleece-lined jackets such as a B-3, B-6. etc.though. A 5"-6" over chest size could be a pretty darn large jacket, all things being equal...all depends on what you wear and what type of jacket etc... |
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Post by ickes on Dec 24, 2015 10:26:07 GMT -6
damn, that doesn't work for me. Either my chest is a bit bigger than I think or I prefer a roomier fit than most, but 4" above my actual chest size of 42" is the minimum I'll go on a shirt even. My IH-107 UHF has a 47" chest measurement pit to pit and it's perfect for just wearing one layer underneath, like a T shirt. If I go any smaller I feel like I'm squeezing in to my little brothers clothes.
I think it's even acceptable to go 6" over on a button op shirt/flannel. For example historypreservation.com uses that guideline in their sizing info. maybe shoulder width plays in to the chest size as well?? I do have wide shoulders for my frame. I don't know. I'm going to go measure my chest again...lol.
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Post by Old26 on Dec 24, 2015 10:27:34 GMT -6
damn, that doesn't work for me. Either my chest is a bit bigger than I think or I prefer a roomier fit than most, but 4" above my actual chest size of 42" is the minimum I'll go on a shirt even. My IH-107 UHF has a 47" chest measurement pit to pit and it's perfect for just wearing one layer underneath, like a T shirt. If I go any smaller I feel like I'm squeezing in to my little brothers clothes. I think it's even acceptable to go 6" over on a button op shirt/flannel. For example historypreservation.com uses that guideline in their sizing info. maybe shoulder width plays in to the chest size as well?? I do have wide shoulders for my frame. I don't know. I'm going to go measure my chest again...lol. Lots of variables... Wider shoulders can make a difference as well. If you know what works for YOU, then do it! The first thing you learn with leather jackets in particular is to ignore tags, so that formula is what most use. It's not perfect nor written in stone, but I'd say I'm 95% confident in buying using it sight-unseen... |
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2015 11:33:59 GMT -6
devastitisOk, I did a quick measurement following Rogue Territory's measuring guide: crosscut flannel size large: pit to pit: 21.5" sleeve length: 26.25" back: 18" length: 28.5-29" I checked 3sixteen's measurements and my shirt appears to have come in a hair under spec in the chest and length, but it doesn't really effect the fit for me. I plan on cold washing/hang drying.
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2015 11:37:02 GMT -6
I got a large from theclassroomshop.com/ but I believe I got their last one as it's not listed in the size array. for reference, i'm 5'11, 175 lbs, and have a 38-39" chest. It's not short on you? Also, was there a coupon code you used? no, it's not short on me as it sits well below my waist/belt. I bought mine during their Black Friday sale for $160, but I originally got a medium which I had to return for a size large and had to pay $10 to reship. So, $170 spent |
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Post by devastitis on Dec 24, 2015 11:47:03 GMT -6
devastitis Ok, I did a quick measurement following Rogue Territory's measuring guide: crosscut flannel size large: pit to pit: 21.5" sleeve length: 26.25" back: 18" length: 28.5-29" I checked 3sixteen's measurements and my shirt appears to have come in a hair under spec in the chest and length, but it doesn't really effect the fit for me. I plan on cold washing/hang drying. So it came an inch under spec for chest (44"), and close to two inches under spec for length (30.5")? That would probably be ideal for me if I pull the trigger and they come in under spec like that. Rivet & Hide says expect half an inch of shrink if washed as well. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2015 11:57:24 GMT -6
devastitis Ok, I did a quick measurement following Rogue Territory's measuring guide: crosscut flannel size large: pit to pit: 21.5" sleeve length: 26.25" back: 18" length: 28.5-29" I checked 3sixteen's measurements and my shirt appears to have come in a hair under spec in the chest and length, but it doesn't really effect the fit for me. I plan on cold washing/hang drying. So it came an inch under spec for chest (44"), and close to two inches under spec for length (30.5")? That would probably be ideal for me if I pull the trigger and they come in under spec like that. Rivet & Hide says expect half an inch of shrink if washed as well. yep. but my sweet spot for shirts is 21.5" for the chest, but 22" works just as well. I measured my Filson Cascade shirt in medium and the chest came to 22", sleeve 25", back 19" and length about 29-30" and it still fits me well. I plan on cold washing my crosscut flannel later today -- guess i'll find out if it shrinks anymore than reported |
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