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Post by scooter on May 2, 2015 10:10:39 GMT -6
I've been finding myself more interested in trying this. I recently copped a pair of Oxblood2s off ebay. I like the color. But, I'm thinking they would look better with deeper tone. I wonder if some time soaked in kakishibu, or vinegaroon would work ? I have zero experience with this. So, I may be totally off base. Any thoughts ?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 13:49:13 GMT -6
If you want to do vinegaroon, I think you'll need to presoak in tea or something as it works on tannins. That's why vinegaroon works so well on veg tan leather, it's saturated with tannins. I'm not positive but I don't think it will do much to plain cotton. I'll dip some in my stash of vinegaroon and see.
My guess is the kakishibu would look better though and the fades might be crazy cool. Who knows....
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Post by scooter on May 2, 2015 16:24:07 GMT -6
My guess is the kakishibu would look better though and the fades might be crazy cool. Who knows.... I'll have to dedicate a little time and do some research, over the next few weeks, and give it a go. I can't let the rest of you mad scientists have all the fun.
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Post by DigDug on May 11, 2015 21:33:46 GMT -6
So here's my Kakishibu project on a pair of Converse70's (they were cheep but not my style/color). First I bleached them, them brushed on 3 coats of Kakishibu (mixed about 6oz water to 2 table spoons Kakishibu). Waited about 2 days between coats and put them in the sun.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 22:29:52 GMT -6
DigDug did you buy a second pair? Didn't you do an indigo version not too long ago?
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Post by DigDug on May 11, 2015 22:35:32 GMT -6
DigDug did you buy a second pair? Didn't you do an indigo version not too long ago? I ended up giving the indigo pair to my son and bought a second pair. Bleached out just like the first pair. These are going to be my beaters (should look good with green grass stains
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 7:00:42 GMT -6
DigDug did you buy a second pair? Didn't you do an indigo version not too long ago? I ended up giving the indigo pair to my son and bought a second pair. Bleached out just like the first pair. These are going to be my beaters (should look good with green grass stains And the kakishibu should provide a little protection from water as well
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:28:46 GMT -6
Thumbs up (metal style) DigDug!
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Post by matt on Jul 2, 2015 9:07:07 GMT -6
My gf gifted me a recent grab bag (not the current, but the prior) - and while I haven't seen them yet, she said she doesn't think I'll like them because they are "too light". So I looked back at the lighter campaigns and she believes they are either the Japan Azure or the Indigo Cheese Dye (I can confirm when I get back from the east coast). My curiosity with what they could be has me thinking about this thread. I may opt for trying either kakishibu or a dark indigo dye IF it's one of these two.
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Post by scooter on Aug 8, 2015 9:32:24 GMT -6
Preparations for my Oxblood2 dyeing project have begun. I had considered starting tomorrow. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear the weather will be cooperative. I'm aiming for a labor day completion, though. To be continued......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 11:43:46 GMT -6
Be sure you open those seams up and get the brush in there. I ended up doing a next day touch up on the outside leg seams and I was ding the soak methond.
Looking forward to pics!
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Post by scooter on Aug 8, 2015 12:39:05 GMT -6
Be sure you open those seams up and get the brush in there. I ended up doing a next day touch up on the outside leg seams and I was ding the soak methond. Looking forward to pics! Much appreciated tip. I don't know that I would've given that a thought. I imagine it's essential to over saturate the areas where the fabric is folded, or layered. Though it may be unseen, it will still soak up the dye.
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Post by scooter on Sept 6, 2015 12:24:40 GMT -6
Ox2, sunbathing, after a fresh coat of kakishibu.
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2015 12:34:06 GMT -6
Ox2, sunbathing, after a fresh coat of kakishibu. That's pretty cool - so you were going for a brownish-oxblood by adding the kakishibu? Smart idea with the Ox2's.
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Post by scooter on Sept 6, 2015 12:41:19 GMT -6
Ox2, sunbathing, after a fresh coat of kakishibu. That's pretty cool - so you were going for a brownish-oxblood by adding the kakishibu? Smart idea with the Ox2's. Exactly. I figured it would darken the red a bit, and dirty up the white weft. To me, oxblood shouldn't be so bright.
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Post by Griffin on Sept 6, 2015 13:21:45 GMT -6
Looks amazing, I would buy them at the store!
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Post by Griffin on Sept 6, 2015 13:23:18 GMT -6
So here's my Kakishibu project on a pair of Converse70's (they were cheep but not my style/color). First I bleached them, them brushed on 3 coats of Kakishibu (mixed about 6oz water to 2 table spoons Kakishibu). Waited about 2 days between coats and put them in the sun. Dude, can you give us some more details on the bleach, how did you get them so white before dying, I see you left the red strip so did you brush it on? What kind of bleach did you use, and for how long, and with what and, and, and...!
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 6, 2015 13:31:50 GMT -6
Scooter's a dye boss! Very cool!
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Post by scooter on Sept 6, 2015 14:27:39 GMT -6
Scooter's a dye boss! Very cool! I don't know about that. This is my first go-round with kakishibu. I wasn't too worried about the results. I got the Ox2 off ebay, for a very reasonable price, and I figured they would probably hide any inconsistencies better than an indigo, or natural ( see @stevekas ) pair would. Honestly, I think I kind of played it safe, for my first time out. They are almost dry, already. Now, I'm just wondering if I should rinse them right away, or let them hang a couple of days before doing so.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 6, 2015 15:10:38 GMT -6
Oh, I thought it was you that dyed with this before! Ha. My bad!
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Post by DigDug on Sept 6, 2015 19:19:12 GMT -6
So here's my Kakishibu project on a pair of Converse70's (they were cheep but not my style/color). First I bleached them, them brushed on 3 coats of Kakishibu (mixed about 6oz water to 2 table spoons Kakishibu). Waited about 2 days between coats and put them in the sun. Dude, can you give us some more details on the bleach, how did you get them so white before dying, I see you left the red strip so did you brush it on? What kind of bleach did you use, and for how long, and with what and, and, and...! Here's an indigo pair I also did. selvedgestyle.com/thread/568/threadDidn't take much to bleach. 1 part bleach 2 parts warm water, soak for 3, 4 hours. The red stripe is made of some sort of poly and didnt bleach out. I haven't worn these very much, my son wears the indigo's.
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Post by DigDug on Sept 6, 2015 19:21:56 GMT -6
Scooter's a dye boss! Very cool! I don't know about that. This is my first go-round with kakishibu. I wasn't too worried about the results. I got the Ox2 off ebay, for a very reasonable price, and I figured they would probably hide any inconsistencies better than an indigo, or natural ( see @stevekas ) pair would. Honestly, I think I kind of played it safe, for my first time out. They are almost dry, already. Now, I'm just wondering if I should rinse them right away, or let them hang a couple of days before doing so. Let them dry a day or so. I'd think it would only maybe make them darker. Which I think would look better.
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Post by scooter on Sept 7, 2015 12:06:41 GMT -6
I don't know about that. This is my first go-round with kakishibu. I wasn't too worried about the results. I got the Ox2 off ebay, for a very reasonable price, and I figured they would probably hide any inconsistencies better than an indigo, or natural ( see @stevekas ) pair would. Honestly, I think I kind of played it safe, for my first time out. They are almost dry, already. Now, I'm just wondering if I should rinse them right away, or let them hang a couple of days before doing so. Let them dry a day or so. I'd think it would only maybe make them darker. Which I think would look better. I took the advice. With rain in the forecast, I hung them in the garage, over night. They are sunbathing again, now. They stunk up the garage, though. They will definitely be getting rinsed TONIGHT !
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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2015 12:38:49 GMT -6
Has anyone opted to try the other root of dyeing the denim with coffee? I've been between the kakishibu option and possibly using one of my home brew 5 gallons pots to brew up 2 bags of coffee and dye my Pima's to give them the hint of brown similar to option with the one dip of kakishibu.
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Post by Griffin on Sept 7, 2015 13:04:59 GMT -6
Some coffee has dripped from my espresso-machine onto a white cupboard-door. Its impossible to get it clean! I am guessing the java will bind excellent with cotton! Momotaro has a green-tea dyed shirt. Come to think of it, what else gives good stains, well, wine!, citrus and ketchup. Go crazy! Why not try tea first on a t-shirt, then bind it batik-style in many rings, then do the rest with wine, bind yet again and finish off with ketshup. Could dip just the arms and waist in coffe also!
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