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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 21:56:38 GMT -6
What's the back story on the company name?
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Post by bentin on Sept 17, 2015 22:10:10 GMT -6
What's the back story on the company name? And is it too late to change it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 22:23:04 GMT -6
What's the back story on the company name? And is it too late to change it? That's rude...
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Post by bentin on Sept 17, 2015 22:25:51 GMT -6
And is it too late to change it? That's rude...
Perhaps. Just doesn't work for me personally. |
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Post by Winterland on Sept 17, 2015 23:02:11 GMT -6
Perhaps. Just doesn't work for me personally. Good question. Was wondering too. I was thinking it was a last name. |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 17, 2015 23:59:03 GMT -6
What's the back story on the company name? My name is Daniel Lord. D'Lord is short for that and in a way I've always been interested in royalty, so the fact that it sounds a little like "the lord" helps subliminally install positive connotations. Unless of course you are an atheist. |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 0:00:06 GMT -6
Perhaps. Just doesn't work for me personally. Haha, Its never too late to do anything, ever. However, that doesnt mean I will change it. |
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Post by brentkuz on Sept 18, 2015 3:49:31 GMT -6
What's the back story on the company name? My name is Daniel Lord. D'Lord is short for that and in a way I've always been interested in royalty, so the fact that it sounds a little like "the lord" helps subliminally install positive connotations. Unless of course you are an atheist. Not for everyone it personally had my thinking fundamental baptist. No clue why at all. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Sept 18, 2015 7:31:17 GMT -6
Great question. So here's where I am at. All my denim is organic certified, cone doesn't do that. Maybe one day I can come with an order large enough to entice them. My factory in pakistan is one of the few that I've come across so far that have passed my standards, as well as, being certified organic by GOT's, and also their new manufacturing plant has been certified by the US green building councils LEED program. Italy is in negotiations right now, I just came across their factory and am digging deeper into who they are and what they are about. As for the "create more manufacturing jobs" part, my long term goal is to try to influence policy in order to make it attainable for brands to actually manufacture here. For now, Our factory that makes the actual jeans is in america as are a few other of my trim partners. And another reason why I didnt use cone besides the organic issue? being a denim head, I love variety and uniqueness. These fabrics that im sourcing are just that and more. In the future I hope to create unique fabrics that come from all over the world, in a way thats what makes america so unique, our cultural diversity. it's great that you're trying to be more environmentally conscious but not everyone will be sold on the idea of organic. don't get me wrong, I own several organic cotton/bamboo/hemp tees and they're some of my favorite shirts but denim is an entirely different beast. I would consider organic denim as a value added purchase, but it would also depend on what you're msrp is and what your jeans will look like. I can't speak for anyone else here but when I look at denim from other companies the draws for me are the weight of the denim, the warp/weft/id and where the fabric is from, and not necessarily in that order. I think 11oz denim (or under) will be a tough sell since most of us prefer heavier weights, like 12.5 and above. |
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Post by brentkuz on Sept 18, 2015 7:48:14 GMT -6
Will you be using natural organic indigo too?
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Post by bentin on Sept 18, 2015 8:12:44 GMT -6
Yeah, the name just makes me thing of Lil' Baby Jeebus. A lot of this:  With a little of this:  And a dash of this:  |
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Post by devastitis on Sept 18, 2015 8:16:16 GMT -6
Yeah, the name just makes me thing of Lil' Baby Jeebus. A lot of this: With a little of this: And a dash of this: Not this?  |
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Post by bentin on Sept 18, 2015 8:17:22 GMT -6
I'm too old for that Lorde. And this Lourdes creeps me out:  |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 9:27:53 GMT -6
Great question. So here's where I am at. All my denim is organic certified, cone doesn't do that. Maybe one day I can come with an order large enough to entice them. My factory in pakistan is one of the few that I've come across so far that have passed my standards, as well as, being certified organic by GOT's, and also their new manufacturing plant has been certified by the US green building councils LEED program. Italy is in negotiations right now, I just came across their factory and am digging deeper into who they are and what they are about. As for the "create more manufacturing jobs" part, my long term goal is to try to influence policy in order to make it attainable for brands to actually manufacture here. For now, Our factory that makes the actual jeans is in america as are a few other of my trim partners. And another reason why I didnt use cone besides the organic issue? being a denim head, I love variety and uniqueness. These fabrics that im sourcing are just that and more. In the future I hope to create unique fabrics that come from all over the world, in a way thats what makes america so unique, our cultural diversity. it's great that you're trying to be more environmentally conscious but not everyone will be sold on the idea of organic. don't get me wrong, I own several organic cotton/bamboo/hemp tees and they're some of my favorite shirts but denim is an entirely different beast. I would consider organic denim as a value added purchase, but it would also depend on what you're msrp is and what your jeans will look like. I can't speak for anyone else here but when I look at denim from other companies the draws for me are the weight of the denim, the warp/weft/id and where the fabric is from, and not necessarily in that order. I think 11oz denim (or under) will be a tough sell since most of us prefer heavier weights, like 12.5 and above. You are right. A lot of people don't see the necessity of going organic and I understand why.I appreciate your insight tremendously. As of now, retail is going to hover around 170, with the aim to get it lower. However, the kickstarter price will be a lot better and more appealing. As for the weight, im confirming with the factory for the heavier weight. |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -6
Yeah, the name just makes me thing of Lil' Baby Jeebus. A lot of this: With a little of this: And a dash of this: This had me on the floor. Great job man. |
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Post by bugula on Sept 18, 2015 9:55:30 GMT -6
i wish you luck but it feels like you're going after a small niche of an already small niche market. and i could take that a level of inception deeper if i bifurcate the raw denim niche market into those that like lighter vs. heavier weights.
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 10:02:33 GMT -6
i wish you luck but it feels like you're going after a small niche of an already small niche market. and i could take that a level of inception deeper if i bifurcate the raw denim niche market into those that like lighter vs. heavier weights. I can see why you'd think that. I'd make a counter argument that its not a small niche market, but I dont necessarily have a problem with it if it is. Capturing a niche market is the first step towards developing a brand. Im not in this to build a powerhouse brand in the first year of business, this is all about sustained growth, which I'd argue is the problem behind brands that try to start on kickstarter with hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Sept 18, 2015 10:17:33 GMT -6
another thing to consider, research the market before putting all your eggs in one basket. I don't see organic denim being offered that much, probably because it's cost prohibitive. I know Gustin has had it up for campaign a few times and I think Nudie Jeans sells organic, but these are established brands that are selling denim in or around the $170 price point you're proposing. You have to ask yourself, would anyone spend $170 on organic denim from my company versus other established brands? Lastly, pictures are worth a thousand words. You have to show the end product and sell it to people like us. I've come across several 1-man brands on Instagram and their product looks amazing. Companion Denim is one such company, but he seems to do custom denim and charges more for his product/service. Needless to say, he does everything himself and the quality looks great. Andy Whall is another guy doing things himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2015 10:39:21 GMT -6
i wish you luck but it feels like you're going after a small niche of an already small niche market. and i could take that a level of inception deeper if i bifurcate the raw denim niche market into those that like lighter vs. heavier weights. X2 It's nice to see new startups for sure but I'm not one to buy organic cotton clothing just for that sake. I have a couple gramicci items, hemp/org cotton and I like the material but I got them cheap. I don't seek it out. FWIW - I'm not one to buy Kickstarter clothing. I like the idea for some causes but not for profit ventures. |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 11:41:32 GMT -6
another thing to consider, research the market before putting all your eggs in one basket. I don't see organic denim being offered that much, probably because it's cost prohibitive. I know Gustin has had it up for campaign a few times and I think Nudie Jeans sells organic, but these are established brands that are selling denim in or around the $170 price point you're proposing. You have to ask yourself, would anyone spend $170 on organic denim from my company versus other established brands? Lastly, pictures are worth a thousand words. You have to show the end product and sell it to people like us. I've come across several 1-man brands on Instagram and their product looks amazing. Companion Denim is one such company, but he seems to do custom denim and charges more for his product/service. Needless to say, he does everything himself and the quality looks great. Andy Whall is another guy doing things himself. My proposition is based on the organic item. First and foremost I am a brand making clothing, thats my value. Whether its unique design, great fits, or interesting fabrics, my first step in this business is offering a quality product. Only then does the organic or social enterprise aspect have any value. I appreciate your insight though, there is a lot of good information in there and of course I'll look more into companion and andy whall. I wanted to make sure that everyone understands, the reason I am on this forum is to explain my brand, what we are trying to do, but more importantly use your information to become better. I really do want to have the best customer service around. You know, you bring up a good point with the price. I often ask myself why people buy certain brands with inflated costs, and right now the only answer I can find is because these brands are marvelous marketing trains, in other words great branding. Thats what I want to establish as well. Again thanks for your insight, I really do appreciate it, it makes me delve deeper. |
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 11:42:47 GMT -6
i wish you luck but it feels like you're going after a small niche of an already small niche market. and i could take that a level of inception deeper if i bifurcate the raw denim niche market into those that like lighter vs. heavier weights. X2 It's nice to see new startups for sure but I'm not one to buy organic cotton clothing just for that sake. I have a couple gramicci items, hemp/org cotton and I like the material but I got them cheap. I don't seek it out. FWIW - I'm not one to buy Kickstarter clothing. I like the idea for some causes but not for profit ventures. I appreciate the comment. I have to do a better job at my value proposition, its not just about the organic cotton, in fact, this is mostly about the actual design, fit, and quality. Thats what Im selling first. |
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Post by Old26 on Sept 18, 2015 12:13:32 GMT -6
Hey fellas - let's please try not to piss on the guy's thread, OK?
At this stage, we're looking at a well-intentioned startup from the looks of things and I think we can reserve the poison for those that have shown us the bad side of gear companies.
Carry on...
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Post by dlorddenim on Sept 18, 2015 12:26:47 GMT -6
Hey fellas - let's please try not to piss on the guy's thread, OK? At this stage, we're looking at a well-intentioned startup from the looks of things and I think we can reserve the poison for those that have shown us the bad side of gear companies. Carry on... I appreciate that, I really do have all the best intentions, but I understand thats not enough. I also understand why people might be weary. It's tough when people have had so many bad experiences with brands, which is part of the reason I am doing this. It's all about transparency. |
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Post by ickes on Sept 18, 2015 12:36:18 GMT -6
I liking what I'm reading so far dlorddenim. I'm glad you joined our forum and I will stay tuned to see how your brand develops. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Sept 18, 2015 12:44:02 GMT -6
You know, you bring up a good point with the price. I often ask myself why people buy certain brands with inflated costs, and right now the only answer I can find is because these brands are marvelous marketing trains, in other words great branding. Thats what I want to establish as well. I would make the counter-argument that people buy certain expensive brands because of the quality first and foremost. It's up to consumers to determine what they're willing to pay. I would also say that word-of-mouth is typically how brands establish themselves. If you make a high quality product and it shows, then customers will tell anyone who will listen about your brand. If you look around this forum you'll notice that a lot of us post threads about denim brands many of us have never heard of before. Not only does this enable the rest of us to check out new companies but also to see what else is out there. |
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