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Post by exophobe on Aug 3, 2015 11:53:54 GMT -6
i'd be all over Gustin boots if they did a collab with a well-known maker, like Alden. Plus, it would behoove Gustin to reveal who's making their stuff rather than posting vague statements like 'made in the USA.' If they marketed their stuff like "Gustin x Alden" they could easily justify the mark-up, the same way Leffot, epaulet and a buttload of other companies do with their collabs. Except if they sell a Gustin x Alden for $350 Alden isn't going to be happy about it (and would likely insist on a say in their sale price to avoid devaluing their brand), but then I don't know why they'd be in the partnership/collaboration if that weren't the case. More likely, they have someone like Wolverine (just an example, no idea who's making them though I'm fairly certain it's not Rancourt because they aren't Rancourt-shaped) making boots that share Alden's design cues, and therefore Wolverine doesn't want to cop to it, and Gustin is able to undercut Alden on price by making a few design changes but largely looking the same (Alden has a 360 welt and a bit higher level finish work, Gustin has the L shaped stitching enforcement up near the toe). The irony being that, if they did do an actual collaboration, they could charge more and people wouldn't balk at the price so much, since they now feel special for something other than the price they were obtained at. |
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Post by quick on Aug 3, 2015 12:03:02 GMT -6
iron rangers have been 200 multiple times in the past month. the G arrogance is getting annoying. wait what? They posted their price? no, but I'm thinking the price will be 200 at the absolute minimum. 200 is a good price assuming the quality is on par with RW but knowing G, the boots will cost at least 279 but with tax and shipping, they will be over 300. |
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Post by bentin on Aug 3, 2015 12:05:13 GMT -6
Let's not forget the G Delay too, nothing like funding someone to make your boots in three or four months.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 3, 2015 12:16:50 GMT -6
wait what? They posted their price? no, but I'm thinking the price will be 200 at the absolute minimum. 200 is a good price assuming the quality is on par with RW but knowing G, the boots will cost at least 279 but with tax and shipping, they will be over 300. I guar-awwn-tee these will be over $350. |
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Post by mkeview on Aug 3, 2015 12:26:02 GMT -6
Made in USA. It has my attention .
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Post by metals37 on Aug 3, 2015 12:36:25 GMT -6
Let's not forget the G Delay too, nothing like funding someone to make your boots in three or four months. Leffot and plenty of others follow this model with Alden boots. Not to say that I expect G boots to measure up. |
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Post by devastitis on Aug 3, 2015 12:40:38 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure they aren't modeling these to be comparable to Red Wings Iron Rangers. They look nothing alike. Why compare the prices? Either way, regardless of the price, like the GSneaks, I won't be in until they've been thoroughly reviewed.
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Post by metals37 on Aug 3, 2015 12:41:06 GMT -6
It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to early to tell just about anything yet, but at least at this point I'm not completely pissed off about them being made in Italy. From the 3 pictures, I kind of like them, but we will see what else they tell us about them in the next month or so.
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Post by wdw on Aug 3, 2015 12:43:16 GMT -6
I agree that a collaboration with a quality brand would have been better and easier to sell.
Tricker's do a lot of variations for individual stores, usually regarding colour and leather mixes, and I'm happy to pay the usual full Tricker's price for something different, knowing the quality will still be the same.
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Post by gaseousclay on Aug 3, 2015 12:58:49 GMT -6
i'd be all over Gustin boots if they did a collab with a well-known maker, like Alden. Plus, it would behoove Gustin to reveal who's making their stuff rather than posting vague statements like 'made in the USA.' If they marketed their stuff like "Gustin x Alden" they could easily justify the mark-up, the same way Leffot, epaulet and a buttload of other companies do with their collabs. Except if they sell a Gustin x Alden for $350 Alden isn't going to be happy about it (and would likely insist on a say in their sale price to avoid devaluing their brand), but then I don't know why they'd be in the partnership/collaboration if that weren't the case. More likely, they have someone like Wolverine (just an example, no idea who's making them though I'm fairly certain it's not Rancourt because they aren't Rancourt-shaped) making boots that share Alden's design cues, and therefore Wolverine doesn't want to cop to it, and Gustin is able to undercut Alden on price by making a few design changes but largely looking the same (Alden has a 360 welt and a bit higher level finish work, Gustin has the L shaped stitching enforcement up near the toe). The irony being that, if they did do an actual collaboration, they could charge more and people wouldn't balk at the price so much, since they now feel special for something other than the price they were obtained at. that would be the caveat, if they did an actual collab they'd have to charge full price and not undercut anyone. I don't think anyone would complain, especially if it were Alden. But they would have to use a style or type of leather unique to this release. It's my understanding that Wolverine subcontracts their boots out to AE, like the Krause and 1000 Mile. I could be wrong. An Alden collab would be an instant hit. I guess it's just as well they don't reveal who's making their boots since there are so many brand loyalists |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 3, 2015 13:04:31 GMT -6
As boots go it looks good. The stitching adds a bit more depth than the vast majority of plain toe boots.
I already have 2 similar boots and a chukka so these are not too terribly interesting to me.
However, I'm curious as to who they partnered with(Allen Edmonds, Rancourt and Danner etc.) and how much it will cost.
If Gustin boots are from a good bootmaker and an affordable price(low $200s is probably the top of what I'd consider appropriate), then I may consider splurging for an additional pair just to support their endeavor.
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Post by unnamed on Aug 3, 2015 13:06:00 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Aug 3, 2015 13:32:58 GMT -6
As boots go it looks good. The stitching adds a bit more depth than the vast majority of plain toe boots. I already have 2 similar boots and a chukka so these are not too terribly interesting to me. However, I'm curious as to who they partnered with(Allen Edmonds, Rancourt and Danner etc.) and how much it will cost. If Gustin boots are from a good bootmaker and an affordable price(low $200s is probably the top of what I'd consider appropriate), then I may consider splurging for an additional pair just to support their endeavor. Low 200s is less than half of the cost of what they styled these after, which I guess may be appropriate if you consider that the sneakers (non-horween) are less than half the cost of Common Projects. If they're concerned with fitting them into their sneaker type pricing, given that these appear to be re-soleable (if not entirely re-craftable, dunno) fairly easily, they'd end up having to price them higher than the sneakers. If they don't care about that, I can see them coming in at the same cost as the Horween sneakers. But then they'd be more than $100 less than the Horween tote in it's most recent appearance in the stock store. As I understand it, though, the boot market isn't terribly high margin in the $300 range, meaning that, for example, Red Wing isn't making much on a pair of Iron Rangers, so undercutting that price may not be reasonable. End of August is only four weeks away, so either way I guess we'll know by then. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 3, 2015 13:34:30 GMT -6
and since it's bound to show up before long ( Dirty_Denim already flagged it), I might as well put this non-Gustin boot here.  |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 3, 2015 13:35:45 GMT -6
Lets get some pictures in this thread:    Personally I think they look great and it's so great to see "Made in USA"!!!  Those browns are awful wrinkled for being so new. :\ |
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Post by quick on Aug 3, 2015 13:47:37 GMT -6
no, but I'm thinking the price will be 200 at the absolute minimum. 200 is a good price assuming the quality is on par with RW but knowing G, the boots will cost at least 279 but with tax and shipping, they will be over 300. I guar-awwn-tee these will be over $350. you're probably right. I just dont see how G can charge over 350 though... RW IR, Beckman and Wolverine 1000 mile even at retail, are less than 350. |
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Post by bentin on Aug 3, 2015 13:52:04 GMT -6
I guar-awwn-tee these will be over $350. you're probably right. I just dont see how G can charge over 350 though... RW IR, Beckman and Wolverine 1000 mile even at retail, are less than 350. And you can try them on in about a dozen different places within a ten minute drive, and even pay for them and walk out with them on your footseses. Especially useful since I wear anything from an 8.0-10.5 in various brands. I've even started to monkey with my sizing within the same brand, with AE, I have a pair of 8.5, one 9.0 and a few 9.5's. It comes from lots of trying on and walking around to see what works. I've ordered trainers sight unseen, but can't imagine ordering boots that I haven't tried on. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 3, 2015 14:11:50 GMT -6
Who they partnered with will be a huge point....but they won't tell us. It's not Alden I can tell you that. Highly doubtful as price would be too high.
The boot style is odd. It's like a work boot for people that work in an office and will not rake leaves with these boots on.
The mustard boot is odd. That natural though I love it.
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Post by devastitis on Aug 3, 2015 14:16:05 GMT -6
Hmm..I'm really interested in how the middle boot really looks like. On my desktop, it looks like, as brentkuz calls it, mustard, and on my phone, it looks more orangey-yellow, which is pretty sick. I'll pass on the former. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 3, 2015 14:17:20 GMT -6
Hmm..I'm really interested in how the middle boot really looks like. On my desktop, it looks like, as brentkuz calls it, mustard, and on my phone, it looks more orangey-yellow, which is pretty sick. I'll pass on the former. I'm getting mustard out of the photo. Well see I guess. |
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Post by devastitis on Aug 3, 2015 14:23:42 GMT -6
Hmm..I'm really interested in how the middle boot really looks like. On my desktop, it looks like, as brentkuz calls it, mustard, and on my phone, it looks more orangey-yellow, which is pretty sick. I'll pass on the former. I'm getting mustard out of the photo. Well see I guess. Wish I could show you what I see on my phone, but my phone is my camera. What I see on my phone really intrigues me. What I see on my desktop does not. |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 3, 2015 14:28:33 GMT -6
Who they partnered with will be a huge point....but they won't tell us. It's not Alden I can tell you that. Highly doubtful as price would be too high. The boot style is odd. It's like a work boot for people that work in an office and will not rake leaves with these boots on. The mustard boot is odd. That natural though I love it. Isn't that the vast majority of people who buy the Wolverine 1ks and Red Wing heritage boots? The leather soles are a bit of a giveaway that these are more style than durability. These are heritage work boots. They may be tough but they're not exactly work boot tough. |
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Post by bugula on Aug 3, 2015 14:30:11 GMT -6
Hmm..I'm really interested in how the middle boot really looks like. On my desktop, it looks like, as brentkuz calls it, mustard, and on my phone, it looks more orangey-yellow, which is pretty sick. I'll pass on the former. i think the official name for the color is "baby poop." |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 3, 2015 14:31:41 GMT -6
Who they partnered with will be a huge point....but they won't tell us. It's not Alden I can tell you that. Highly doubtful as price would be too high. The boot style is odd. It's like a work boot for people that work in an office and will not rake leaves with these boots on. The mustard boot is odd. That natural though I love it. Isn't that the vast majority of people who buy the Wolverine 1ks and Red Wing heritage boots? The leather soles are a bit of a giveaway that these are more style than durability. These are heritage work boots. They may be tough but they're not exactly work boot tough. Lug or oil resistant cork are all my boots. Kinda seems odd. |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 3, 2015 14:49:37 GMT -6
Isn't that the vast majority of people who buy the Wolverine 1ks and Red Wing heritage boots? The leather soles are a bit of a giveaway that these are more style than durability. These are heritage work boots. They may be tough but they're not exactly work boot tough. Lug or oil resistant cork are all my boots. Kinda seems odd. My daily pair is a Red Wing chukkas with crepe soles. I also wear the Wolverine Courtlands that come with rubber soles as my dressier boots. However, I also own a pair of Wolverine Rockford captoe with leather soles. I just like the profile and look of leather soles. Leather soles are pretty durable except when they get wet. They also tend to get slippery. As long as you condition and properly waterproof the soles, they usually last me about a year or two before needing resoling. They do make a very nice footstep sound. |
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