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Post by DigDug on Jul 21, 2015 11:01:03 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jul 21, 2015 11:06:26 GMT -6
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Post by bentin on Jul 21, 2015 11:15:22 GMT -6
Is your tetanus current? My mom lives in Santa Fe, so I'm allergic to all things turquoise or turquoise colored. But that's still pretty cool.
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Post by Griffin on Jul 21, 2015 11:43:00 GMT -6
I understand its not the same, but I would check out thebeltman aswell. Its one of my finest belts made in america and its exquisite. I always feel not-stitched double belts are always overpriced since they are just....cut? I got the horshide one in natural. www.thebeltman.net/![]() ![]() home.online.no/~the-pa/jackor/belt/broken in/6.jpg |
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Post by DigDug on Jul 21, 2015 11:58:56 GMT -6
Griffin yeah it seems to be relatively easy, being just cut. It's the Oak-Bark Tanning and the Buckle that has me.
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Post by Griffin on Jul 21, 2015 12:09:24 GMT -6
It does look good. If it ages good it might look amazing. 210 is alot for a belt but not alot of money for a grail item.
I would say do it, i just thing 1.5 is on the verge of too narrow But it might not be possible with wider since its so thick and the closing will have 3 pieces overlaping so i think it will stretch the loops as is.
I got my replacement belt from LD and they are also very thick, but this one is slightly more narrow and it bugs me.
But yeah get it...just get a beltmanbelt aswell...i promise it will be Nice and you can wear it with chinos.
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Post by metals37 on Jul 21, 2015 12:42:09 GMT -6
Since this is my grail belt. I probably can't speak to $210 being too much. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jul 22, 2015 6:58:26 GMT -6
it's your money. I personally think it's a bit of a rip off to pay $210 for a bridle leather belt. I'd pay $210 for a shell cordovan belt but not for something that's as common as calfskin. |
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Post by DigDug on Jul 22, 2015 7:18:55 GMT -6
Since this is my grail belt. I probably can't speak to $210 being too much. Dang that's a lot! Maybe if I keep looking at that one mine will seem like a bargin. |
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Post by metals37 on Jul 22, 2015 9:33:43 GMT -6
Since this is my grail belt. I probably can't speak to $210 being too much. Dang that's a lot! Maybe if I keep looking at that one mine will seem like a bargin. Double shells with good enough quality in the middle to do anything with are super crazy rare - potentially justifying - at least in my head. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 22, 2015 9:40:50 GMT -6
It does look good. If it ages good it might look amazing. 210 is alot for a belt but not alot of money for a grail item. I would say do it, i just thing 1.5 is on the verge of too narrow But it might not be possible with wider since its so thick and the closing will have 3 pieces overlaping so i think it will stretch the loops as is. I got my replacement belt from LD and they are also very thick, but this one is slightly more narrow and it bugs me. But yeah get it...just get a beltmanbelt aswell...i promise it will be Nice and you can wear it with chinos. That Beltman guy sells belts made from elephant hide. Therefore, and perdon-a-me French for this, but f!@k him. |
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Post by Griffin on Jul 22, 2015 9:49:00 GMT -6
It does look good. If it ages good it might look amazing. 210 is alot for a belt but not alot of money for a grail item. I would say do it, i just thing 1.5 is on the verge of too narrow But it might not be possible with wider since its so thick and the closing will have 3 pieces overlaping so i think it will stretch the loops as is. I got my replacement belt from LD and they are also very thick, but this one is slightly more narrow and it bugs me. But yeah get it...just get a beltmanbelt aswell...i promise it will be Nice and you can wear it with chinos. That Beltman guy sells belts made from elephant hide. Therefore, and perdon-a-me French for this, but f!@k him. "Rest assured our hides are purchased from properly licensed importers. The Beltman shop will never be party to illegally obtained elephant hides." But maybe the Elephant will be much more happy in his afterlife if the hide is simply thrown into the garbage? |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 22, 2015 10:21:54 GMT -6
That Beltman guy sells belts made from elephant hide. Therefore, and perdon-a-me French for this, but f!@k him. "Rest assured our hides are purchased from properly licensed importers. The Beltman shop will never be party to illegally obtained elephant hides." But maybe the Elephant will be much more happy in his afterlife if the hide is simply thrown into the garbage? Yeah, sorry to say, but I don't buy that for a minute. What does he mean "illegally obtained"? What are these so-called "licensed importers?" Where do those licensed importers get the hides? How are those hides obtained? There is quite a bit of shadiness with trade in species like this. There are no elephant farms for production of hides. These are rapidly-declining megafauna, and these hides can ONLY be obtained from species in the wild. I mean, is it POSSIBLE that they are only obtained from animals that die of natural causes? Yes. Likely? Erm....no. It's at the very least, murky ethically for him to be offering such product. |
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Post by devastitis on Jul 22, 2015 10:39:22 GMT -6
Dang that's a lot! Maybe if I keep looking at that one mine will seem like a bargin. Double shells with good enough quality in the middle to do anything with are super crazy rare - potentially justifying - at least in my head. the Navy one has my heart. If I ever spend the money for Viberg Service Boots in Navy Shell, I will probably be in the market for navy shell belts. |
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Post by Griffin on Jul 22, 2015 10:39:38 GMT -6
They have equivalent of your deer season to thin herd in africa that could potentially stomp villages to the ground.
Many people here think deer season is over the edge. Even the term "small game" is wierd talking about life that is just a game?
No we dont know shit about what is really goin on, same in the rest of the leather business or denim business. I would think websites offering hides like this openly would be easy targets for vegan-terrorists and the likes so my common sense says this is as legal as any of the big leathetjacket manufacturers offering horsehide.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 22, 2015 10:45:10 GMT -6
They have equivalent of your deer season to thin herd in africa that could potentially stomp villages to the ground. Many people here think deer season is over the edge. Even the term "small game" is wierd talking about life that is just a game? No we dont know shit about what is really goin on, same in the rest of the leather business or denim business. I would think websites offering hides like this openly would be easy targets for vegan-terrorists and the likes so my common sense says this is as legal as any of the big leathetjacket manufacturers offering horsehide. Just FYI, none of this was a criticism of you at all. Just the trade in elephant parts.  |
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Post by bentin on Jul 22, 2015 10:53:47 GMT -6
And the fact that horse is raised as food, so hides are a byproduct. Not like Horween is just driving along country roads and blasting ranchers' Mr Eds.
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Post by Griffin on Jul 22, 2015 10:53:49 GMT -6
Its ok and its good to be cautious and sceptical and you can have whatever opinion you like. I dont know enough about it and I really dont know thebeltman at all so cant say anything really.
But my common sense is tingeling about these websites out in the open, feels like if they werent "legit" then how can they survive with so many people looking out for "the best interest of the world". Offcourse one could argue that hiding in the open is the best way to hide, however then evrything could be true about everything and we have come nowhere. My gut says this site is ok, but yeah how its handled in the backroom - noone knows, but this is also true about my horsehide jackets so for my convienience i follow my gutfeeling.
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Post by julian on Jul 22, 2015 11:15:20 GMT -6
Not like Horween is just driving along country roads and blasting ranchers' Mr Eds. How annoying. Anyone know the number for their returns department? |
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Post by devastitis on Jul 22, 2015 11:35:04 GMT -6
And the fact that horse is raised as food, so hides are a byproduct. Not like Horween is just driving along country roads and blasting ranchers' Mr Eds. wait a minute, so you're saying shell products aren't made from the hides of past triple crown winners? Easy pass. |
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Post by unnamed on Jul 27, 2015 19:54:35 GMT -6
Re the elephant debate: Supposedly elephant is one of the most ethical leathers around because it is highly-regulated to be mostly from animals who die from natural causes. In addition to the ethical nature of obtaining the hide from the animal it's also extremely durable so it would also help reduce ones consumption which would presumably be even more ethical and environmentally friendly... Y'know: reuse, reduce, recycle...  Chris is a very knowledgeable guy on Iron Heart forum who knows about boots/leathers. Here are some helpful quotes on the subject: www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=721.msg394947#msg394947www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2999.msg186091#msg186091 |
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Post by DigDug on Aug 6, 2015 9:38:25 GMT -6
So I've been loving this belt for a couple years but can't justify $210. It's not just the leather. There's something about the simplicity of the buckle. Like it's been in a barn hanging there for 50 years and some Picker finds it and puts it to use again. So the other day I was working with some 6 gauge copper wire and thought why can't it be made with this. Here's my first try/prototype (took about 15 min. to make). The plan is to make it slightly smaller and use an Ammonia Fuming to Patina it. Nice project to do with the Kids.  |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 6, 2015 9:41:50 GMT -6
Hey! That's cool!! I like it man! How sturdy is it? How prone to bending from the belt/wear and tear? And do you think it'll age on its own?
I'm diggin it.
Also, what jeans are those? Nice fadezz.
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Post by DigDug on Aug 6, 2015 9:44:10 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Aug 6, 2015 9:49:08 GMT -6
Hey! That's cool!! I like it man! How sturdy is it? How prone to bending from the belt/wear and tear? And do you think it'll age on its own? I'm diggin it. Also, what jeans are those? Nice fadezz. How Sturdy- just fine. Has a very little flex but works just fine. Patina- it may over time. I'm thinking of blueing it and as I use it it'll rub off exposing the Copper. Jeans- Gustin Okayama's . In my top 3 best pair. |
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