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Post by highlights on Jul 10, 2015 5:34:38 GMT -6
exophobe, I'm not completely certain whether the fabrics are identical...but, for me, the fantastic heavy wabash fabrics from IH really require lotsa' wear (& a few washes) for nice evo's to begin.
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Post by seth on Jul 10, 2015 6:32:44 GMT -6
ickes, if you prefer workshirt styling then crack it!!! My opinion's that indigo & black are both great fabrics, both western & workshirt styles are cool, the IH buttons will work & be cool...but, imo, ya gotta wear it heaps & then it starts to be extraordinary...(voted western, dig mine) Are you guys absolutely sure those are the same fabric? I just think that Western fabric looks so much better, even though I'd prefer it without the shoulder points. I'm pretty sure it's the same fabric used in two different shirt patterns. It looks different because the lighting is much brighter in the pictures of the Western shirt. |
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Post by seth on Jul 10, 2015 6:41:20 GMT -6
Why do the shoulders seem so narrow on every model wearing these (and most IH shirts for that matter)? Look at where the shoulder seam falls in almost any of the pics - an inch or so higher than the natural end of the shoulder. And then longer sleeves to make the overall fit seem almost right.
Are narrow shoulders just part of the basic IH shirt design? I've tried 3-4 IH shirts and found the shoulders binding when all other proportions were right, and I don't have a broad build. It's something specific to their shirt cut that I don't understand.
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 7:58:50 GMT -6
Why do the shoulders seem so narrow on every model wearing these (and most IH shirts for that matter)? Look at where the shoulder seam falls in almost any of the pics - an inch or so higher than the natural end of the shoulder. And then longer sleeves to make the overall fit seem almost right. Are narrow shoulders just part of the basic IH shirt design? I've tried 3-4 IH shirts and found the shoulders binding when all other proportions were right, and I don't have a broad build. It's something specific to their shirt cut that I don't understand. It's the biker thing. If your arms are stretched out to the grips, the shirt will fit right and not flap around in the wind. However it will never look right when you're doing anything that's not riding a bike. We all like to make fun of Giles for wearing a size too small, but he's really wearing the right size for it's intended purpose. However if you're not buying a $350 shirt to cruise slowly on your Fatboy, buy a size larger and warm wash to shrink the sleeves a little. This also explains why the area under the arm holes is narrower than the bottom, to keep the body from flapping around so much when on a bike. It also looks funny when not on a bike. |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 9:14:14 GMT -6
Are you guys absolutely sure those are the same fabric? I just think that Western fabric looks so much better, even though I'd prefer it without the shoulder points. I'm pretty sure it's the same fabric used in two different shirt patterns. It looks different because the lighting is much brighter in the pictures of the Western shirt. It's the same fabric. I just asked Giles in the IH forum and he confirmed. |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 9:18:30 GMT -6
Why do the shoulders seem so narrow on every model wearing these (and most IH shirts for that matter)? Look at where the shoulder seam falls in almost any of the pics - an inch or so higher than the natural end of the shoulder. And then longer sleeves to make the overall fit seem almost right. Are narrow shoulders just part of the basic IH shirt design? I've tried 3-4 IH shirts and found the shoulders binding when all other proportions were right, and I don't have a broad build. It's something specific to their shirt cut that I don't understand. Because every model you see is wearing a size too small. I wear an XL or even XXL in IH shirts but a L in most other brands |
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Post by brentkuz on Jul 10, 2015 9:21:39 GMT -6
I bought a washed and worn 33 from Sal. It was and XL but after washing it fits more like a M/L kinda in the middle closer to a large.
They will shrink. The shirt now fits more like a casual shirt and less like motorcycle wear.
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 9:21:41 GMT -6
Why do the shoulders seem so narrow on every model wearing these (and most IH shirts for that matter)? Look at where the shoulder seam falls in almost any of the pics - an inch or so higher than the natural end of the shoulder. And then longer sleeves to make the overall fit seem almost right. Are narrow shoulders just part of the basic IH shirt design? I've tried 3-4 IH shirts and found the shoulders binding when all other proportions were right, and I don't have a broad build. It's something specific to their shirt cut that I don't understand. It's the biker thing. If your arms are stretched out to the grips, the shirt will fit right and not flap around in the wind. However it will never look right when you're doing anything that's not riding a bike. We all like to make fun of Giles for wearing a size too small, but he's really wearing the right size for it's intended purpose. However if you're not buying a $350 shirt to cruise slowly on your Fatboy, buy a size larger and warm wash to shrink the sleeves a little. This also explains why the area under the arm holes is narrower than the bottom, to keep the body from flapping around so much when on a bike. It also looks funny when not on a bike. Say what??? Um, I think it's just that Giles and the SE model wear a size too small in most instances. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 9:30:02 GMT -6
For casual wear, you're right. For bike wear, it's the right size.
For pedal pedal sort of cycling, I wear shit that's within an inch of actual chest size, narrow in the shoulders and short in front length. It all works great on the bike, but comes off the second I'm done and is never seen in a coffee house, restaruant or bar.
Active wear fits differnently than casual wear and the cut of IH shirts certainly leans more towards active wear, much like Indigogera's motorcycle wear.
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Post by Winterland on Jul 10, 2015 9:38:35 GMT -6
It's the biker thing. If your arms are stretched out to the grips, the shirt will fit right and not flap around in the wind. However it will never look right when you're doing anything that's not riding a bike. We all like to make fun of Giles for wearing a size too small, but he's really wearing the right size for it's intended purpose. However if you're not buying a $350 shirt to cruise slowly on your Fatboy, buy a size larger and warm wash to shrink the sleeves a little. This also explains why the area under the arm holes is narrower than the bottom, to keep the body from flapping around so much when on a bike. It also looks funny when not on a bike. Say what??? Um, I think it's just that Giles and the SE model wear a size too small in most instances. I agree that most of the Iron Heart shirts do seem to be a little small in the shoulders. I've seen it when looking on their fit charts. My IHSH-08 fits great everywhere else but the shoulders could be a good inch wider. You would think on a motorcycle that would make it feel more confined when arms are forward. I do like a slim fit so maybe with Iron Heart to get slim fit you get narrow shoulders. |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 10:03:45 GMT -6
For casual wear, you're right. For bike wear, it's the right size. For pedal pedal sort of cycling, I wear shit that's within an inch of actual chest size, narrow in the shoulders and short in front length. It all works great on the bike, but comes off the second I'm done and is never seen in a coffee house, restaruant or bar. Active wear fits differnently than casual wear and the cut of IH shirts certainly leans more towards active wear, much like Indigogera's motorcycle wear. Ahh..I see. Gotcha |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 10:28:31 GMT -6
I'm still going to make fun of Gile's fit.
I was trying to wrap my mind around the narrow area of their shirts below the arms, and remembered that Indigofera did the same thing too. I could only trace it back to the motorcycle roots of both brands. I don't honestly notice it on most fit pics, it's more the product photos.
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 10:47:38 GMT -6
I'm still going to make fun of Gile's fit. I was trying to wrap my mind around the narrow area of their shirts below the arms, and remembered that Indigofera did the same thing too. I could only trace it back to the motorcycle roots of both brands. I don't honestly notice it on most fit pics, it's more the product photos. I'm still not quite sure what you're referring to when you're talking about the narrow area of their shirts below the arms. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 10:54:53 GMT -6
It seems more noticeable on Rakuen pics: item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-rodeo/ihsh-62/This one seems more tapered in the area under the pockets, but some look more pinched higher up and all seem to have a lot of flow out to the waist. It's not a bad look, and better than the typical boxy cut of many Japanese brands. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 10:56:17 GMT -6
Dammit, I may have to order that shirt.
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Post by devastitis on Jul 10, 2015 11:11:49 GMT -6
Dammit, I may have to order that shirt. That's a sick looking shirt. Edit: measurements don't work for me unfortunately. 45" chest with a sub 18" shoulder width? |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 11:53:26 GMT -6
Dammit, I may have to order that shirt. That's a sick looking shirt. Edit: measurements don't work for me unfortunately. 45" chest with a sub 18" shoulder width? What fit guide are you looking at devastitis? XL has 19" shoulders with a 46" chest. This shirt has a very nice fit. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 10, 2015 11:54:17 GMT -6
Dammit, I may have to order that shirt. That's a sick looking shirt. Edit: measurements don't work for me unfortunately. 45" chest with a sub 18" shoulder width? It's an amazing shirt. |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 11:56:02 GMT -6
It seems more noticeable on Rakuen pics: item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-rodeo/ihsh-62/This one seems more tapered in the area under the pockets, but some look more pinched higher up and all seem to have a lot of flow out to the waist. It's not a bad look, and better than the typical boxy cut of many Japanese brands. Their western shirts have more of a taper from chest to waist than their WS cut which has a boxier midsection. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 12:02:14 GMT -6
That's a sick looking shirt. Edit: measurements don't work for me unfortunately. 45" chest with a sub 18" shoulder width? What fit guide are you looking at devastitis? XL has 19" shoulders with a 46" chest. This shirt has a very nice fit. Thanks. Safe to assume the sleeves will shrink a half inch or so? |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 12:15:21 GMT -6
What fit guide are you looking at devastitis? XL has 19" shoulders with a 46" chest. This shirt has a very nice fit. Thanks. Safe to assume the sleeves will shrink a half inch or so? Yep. Sleeves and length |
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Post by devastitis on Jul 10, 2015 12:18:43 GMT -6
That's a sick looking shirt. Edit: measurements don't work for me unfortunately. 45" chest with a sub 18" shoulder width? What fit guide are you looking at devastitis? XL has 19" shoulders with a 46" chest. This shirt has a very nice fit. I was looking at and translating this:  |
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Post by ickes on Jul 10, 2015 12:29:15 GMT -6
What fit guide are you looking at devastitis? XL has 19" shoulders with a 46" chest. This shirt has a very nice fit. I was looking at and translating this: Oh, I was looking at the IHUK fit guides. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 10, 2015 12:37:06 GMT -6
Yeah, Rodeo Bros has a misaligned measuring tape.
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Post by devastitis on Jul 10, 2015 12:43:46 GMT -6
Yeah, Rodeo Bros has a misaligned measuring tape. Guess they didn't calibrate it correctly. Was wondering why there was such a low starting point, and it didn't increase by much with each size you went up. |
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