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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 11:05:08 GMT -6
So, in case H Markopolous ( waving hello)and ickes are right, I'm gonna try this here. So far, I've asked whether the workshirt fit has changed both on Styleforum and through direct email, and as yet have received no response. Since everyone that received a workshirt last year definitely acknowledges that the fit is different from the button-downs, I've asked how the fit was adjusted (since I lacked the foresight to archive Gustin fit guides). However, they currently use the same fit guide for both shirts. My question is whether they adjusted the button-down pattern to match the workshirt (longer button-downs, etc), adjusted the workshirt to match the button-down (shorter workshirts, all singing hallelujah), or combined the two, and if the latter, how I should expect this year's workshirt to fit differently than last year, so I can size appropriately. As said, I have yet to receive a response (I'm probably being impatient on the email, so I'm not trying to say they're ignoring that, just that I haven't received a response yet). I'd prefer to not have to wait until after they finish offering workshirts to find out as the new ones get delivered, so thought I'd reach out to the group and see if anyone else has gotten an answer to a similar question.
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Post by DigDug on Oct 6, 2015 11:20:25 GMT -6
So, in case H Markopolous ( waving hello)and ickes are right, I'm gonna try this here. So far, I've asked whether the workshirt fit has changed both on Styleforum and through direct email, and as yet have received no response. Since everyone that received a workshirt last year definitely acknowledges that the fit is different from the button-downs, I've asked how the fit was adjusted (since I lacked the foresight to archive Gustin fit guides). However, they currently use the same fit guide for both shirts. My question is whether they adjusted the button-down pattern to match the workshirt (longer button-downs, etc), adjusted the workshirt to match the button-down (shorter workshirts, all singing hallelujah), or combined the two, and if the latter, how I should expect this year's workshirt to fit differently than last year, so I can size appropriately. As said, I have yet to receive a response (I'm probably being impatient on the email, so I'm not trying to say they're ignoring that, just that I haven't received a response yet). I'd prefer to not have to wait until after they finish offering workshirts to find out as the new ones get delivered, so thought I'd reach out to the group and see if anyone else has gotten an answer to a similar question. It's one of the reasons why I've stopped going to Gustin, a lack of community involvement. They ignore many questions now.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 14:56:41 GMT -6
So, in case H Markopolous ( waving hello)and ickes are right, I'm gonna try this here. So far, I've asked whether the workshirt fit has changed both on Styleforum and through direct email, and as yet have received no response. Since everyone that received a workshirt last year definitely acknowledges that the fit is different from the button-downs, I've asked how the fit was adjusted (since I lacked the foresight to archive Gustin fit guides). However, they currently use the same fit guide for both shirts. My question is whether they adjusted the button-down pattern to match the workshirt (longer button-downs, etc), adjusted the workshirt to match the button-down (shorter workshirts, all singing hallelujah), or combined the two, and if the latter, how I should expect this year's workshirt to fit differently than last year, so I can size appropriately. As said, I have yet to receive a response (I'm probably being impatient on the email, so I'm not trying to say they're ignoring that, just that I haven't received a response yet). I'd prefer to not have to wait until after they finish offering workshirts to find out as the new ones get delivered, so thought I'd reach out to the group and see if anyone else has gotten an answer to a similar question. I did receive an answer, and apparently it's the exact same as last year, which actually has me pretty confused, since all the workshirts I have are most definitely longer than the button-downs I have, but now they all have the same fit guide. This is starting to feel a bit twilight-zoney so I'm not sure what to think. Am I crazy? Were they always on the same fit guide?
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Post by bentin on Oct 6, 2015 21:12:29 GMT -6
Yeah, I think they've always been on the same fit guide. They just don't get cut the same.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 21:29:00 GMT -6
Yeah, I think they've always been on the same fit guide. They just don't get cut the same. I don't know what's worse, that they're different or that they don't know about it. The shop must be adding length to account for shrink, while the button-down shop doesn't.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 7, 2015 17:15:21 GMT -6
How awesome would the Organic Jute fabric be as a workshirt?
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Post by exophobe on Oct 7, 2015 17:23:18 GMT -6
How awesome would the Organic Jute fabric be as a workshirt? We'll never know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 18:13:08 GMT -6
I'm gonna start peeking in on this thread more often. I just recently looked at all of the campaigns that I've missed from the past 6-8 months of not looking at Gustin..... And I've missed some workshirt GEMS! Not to mention a few CPO's that I would have liked, too.
Off-load your unaltered Med. Slims on me!!!!!
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Post by Subsound on Oct 7, 2015 18:28:00 GMT -6
How awesome would the Organic Jute fabric be as a workshirt? We'll never know. Why not? I sent them a request. It might help if others do too.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 7, 2015 18:48:45 GMT -6
We'll never know. Why not? I sent them a request. It might help if others do too. I think the jute would make a good workshirt, unless it's scratchy, then it would be a very special version of hell. edit: removed the worthless bit
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Post by Subsound on Oct 8, 2015 1:47:36 GMT -6
OK so Ren has confirmed that the navy herringbone workshirt is not indigo dyed. And agree that it is priced too high. Looks like it has been pulled.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 10, 2015 0:26:40 GMT -6
Quick question on your raw indigo workshirts: do you wash them after every wear? If not, after how many wears?
And how do you wash (soak, hand wash, machine)? Do you treat wear to the collar or armpit?
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Post by Griffin on Oct 10, 2015 1:38:14 GMT -6
I wear mine as long as absolutely possible then I wash cold with detergent and no softener and the lowest spin. Hang dry in a warm drying room.
I wear them with t-shirt under and shift the t-shirt everyday. When Im breaking in a new one I cant wear it to work and such bc customers, but then I switch to the t-shirt and denimshirt at home. This way it takes many weeks for it to start to smell not fresh and need a wash.
I never spot treat my shirts, but I can do that with jeans, if they get too baggy in the butt I hotsoak the top block only and dry it. Not a usual thing but have done it a coupple of times, it really tightens up the top block without screwing up the setting of the combs or stacks.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 12, 2015 15:36:12 GMT -6
I've been chatting to Ren more about their work shirts, and he claims that they're not seeing a big demand for them when they're listed.
So if you'd like to see some more work shirts listed in the future I'd highly recommend you drop them a line & let them know specifically what you'd like to see. They won't know unless you tell them, and they are listening. But to be fair, make sure you do then buy one when they drop.
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Post by DigDug on Oct 12, 2015 16:09:29 GMT -6
Quick question on your raw indigo workshirts: do you wash them after every wear? If not, after how many wears? And how do you wash (soak, hand wash, machine)? Do you treat wear to the collar or armpit? Tub wash as needed (stink, sweat, dirt). Hang dry.
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Post by Marc on Oct 12, 2015 17:13:37 GMT -6
I've been chatting to Ren more about their work shirts, and he claims that they're not seeing a big demand for them when they're listed. So if you'd like to see some more work shirts listed in the future I'd highly recommend you drop them a line & let them know specifically what you'd like to see. They won't know unless you tell them, and they are listening. But to be fair, make sure you do then buy one when they drop. Interesting, I always felt the work shirts were one of the more solid G products - much better than their standard shirts (which seem to fly off the virtual shelves). Also always thought that the moss herringbone fabric that they did up as jeans might make a good work shirt. Perhaps I'll do as you say and suggest it to Ren. (I also want a pair of Chinos done up in the raw umber fabric).
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Post by ickes on Oct 12, 2015 17:17:11 GMT -6
The fit just doesn't work for me (pun intended).
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Post by Subsound on Oct 12, 2015 19:22:32 GMT -6
The fit just doesn't work for me (pun intended). Email that feedback to them. Of course they cannot make a shirt that fits every body shape, but at least they'll get a picture of what demand there is out there. There's a Gustin non-selvedge herringbone WS on eBay at the moment & it's got 19 bids up to $100 with 4 days to go, so there is demand there. I did suggest they look at fabrics other than indigo/navy to provide some variety. A stripe/jaspe/herringbone would be ideal.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 12, 2015 19:23:24 GMT -6
I've been chatting to Ren more about their work shirts, and he claims that they're not seeing a big demand for them when they're listed. So if you'd like to see some more work shirts listed in the future I'd highly recommend you drop them a line & let them know specifically what you'd like to see. They won't know unless you tell them, and they are listening. But to be fair, make sure you do then buy one when they drop. Still waiting for a heavy/monster twill or heavy chambray and buttons that match fabric. Also, the difference from the fit guide that is apparently unintentional has me a bit concerned. I emailed them about the fit thing, and Stephen assured me that it's the same as last year, which was different from the fit guide they have up now. I've asked about the fabrics on styleforum, people usually get excited, and then Gustin releases another weird denim or the canvas that everyone asked for but nobody wanted.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 12, 2015 19:25:31 GMT -6
Also, they apparently need to make them cost $120, since everyone everywhere complains anytime Gustin prices exceed a buck-twenty. Not even Self Edge or IHUK are charging $300 for a workshirt like their info claims, and most of the workshirt offerings so far this season are higher than Rakuten pricing for nearly all brands except Mr Freedom.
Edit: If either of those twills currently in their store were in the workshirt cut at the price they're at, I would have at least one of them backed already.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 12, 2015 19:31:44 GMT -6
I've been chatting to Ren more about their work shirts, and he claims that they're not seeing a big demand for them when they're listed. So if you'd like to see some more work shirts listed in the future I'd highly recommend you drop them a line & let them know specifically what you'd like to see. They won't know unless you tell them, and they are listening. But to be fair, make sure you do then buy one when they drop. Still waiting for a heavy/monster twill or heavy chambray and buttons that match fabric. Also, the difference from the fit guide that is apparently unintentional has me a bit concerned. I emailed them about the fit thing, and Stephen assured me that it's the same as last year, which was different from the fit guide they have up now. I've asked about the fabrics on styleforum, people usually get excited, and then Gustin releases another weird denim or the canvas that everyone asked for but nobody wanted. That's all really good feedback exophobe; I'd suggest emailing your suggestions & feedback directly so they have a record of it. I'm not sure whether they read this forum, & Styleforum infrequently. They'd rather have passionate customer feedback than silence & no bites when they drop new items.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 12, 2015 19:38:26 GMT -6
Also, they apparently need to make them cost $120, since everyone everywhere complains anytime Gustin prices exceed a buck-twenty. Not even Self Edge or IHUK are charging $300 for a workshirt like their info claims, and most of the workshirt offerings so far this season are higher than Rakuten pricing for nearly all brands except Mr Freedom. Edit: If either of those twills currently in their store were in the workshirt cut at the price they're at, I would have at least one of them backed already. Yes agree, price is a real issue, especially now with the strong US$. But we need to appreciate that work shirt labour is expensive; much more than the normal button-down shirts and more than jeans. Here's what I wrote at Styleforum back in August 2014: "I understand there is more labour involved in making a shirt than jeans, but feel the price is slightly high when compared to the price of the oxford/button-down shirts (though I do acknowledge they are using a US shop that specialises in workshirt techniques)."
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Post by cellbitch on Oct 12, 2015 21:01:57 GMT -6
I (and I'm sure others) wish they would have their workshirt shop make something (WS, or otherwise) with some of the kickass flannels they drop, without buttondown collars, every. Damn. Time.
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Post by Subsound on Oct 12, 2015 22:32:08 GMT -6
I (and I'm sure others) wish they would have their workshirt shop make something (WS, or otherwise) with some of the kickass flannels they drop, without buttondown collars, every. Damn. Time. Agreed, even just non-button collars & gussets could be done using the "normal" shop rather than the premium work shirt shop. Have you contacted them?
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Post by davelewis on Oct 12, 2015 23:05:25 GMT -6
I used to drop Gustin a line, suggesting they take a particular denim, or whatever, and make a work shirt out of it. Since it never seemed to happen, I figured it just fell on deaf ears, and didn't bother after that. I think a while back, it was concluded that they do what they want, as they didn't seem to be listening. It all worked out in the end, as I simply moved on to other makers.
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