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Post by devastitis on Dec 31, 2015 14:05:11 GMT -6
A couple of Gustin boot reviews from reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/3yxh4z/gustin_boots_just_arrived_unboxing_unworn_review/ cellbitch : Was this your review? You guys hit on the same points. Edit: NM, the sizing are different.
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Post by devastitis on Dec 31, 2015 14:09:08 GMT -6
I think I'm going to pass on the boots. They don't look great in the pics.
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Post by mkeview on Dec 31, 2015 14:38:50 GMT -6
Got the natural boots. Positive: I like the color, style, fit. Negative: Big QC fail on my pair. I think you will see in the pictures below that the left shoe is made the way it should and the right shoe is like a 2nd quality shoe. The leather has these lines as if it were set up to be sewn differently. The outer part of the leather near the shoe laces is a little loose on one part and just F-ed on another. The inside is even worse. There's a section that looks like they sewed it up and it was off and removed the stitching and tried like 3 more times. I really want to love these but they fail compared to my G sneakers which were flawless. I'm going to send them back but part of me wants to keep them but they'd need to give me something back. Otherwise they are going back for full refund not credit. It sucks because had both boots been perfect I would be completely happy. Any ideas? m.imgur.com/a/zQhCC
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Post by devastitis on Dec 31, 2015 14:48:42 GMT -6
Got the natural boots. Positive: I like the color, style, fit. Negative: Big QC fail on my pair. I think you will see in the pictures below that the left shoe is made the way it should and the right shoe is like a 2nd quality shoe. The leather has these lines as if it were set up to be sewn differently. The outer part of the leather near the shoe laces is a little loose on one part and just F-ed on another. The inside is even worse. There's a section that looks like they sewed it up and it was off and removed the stitching and tried like 3 more times. I really want to love these but they fail compared to my G sneakers which were flawless. I'm going to send them back but part of me wants to keep them but they'd need to give me something back. Otherwise they are going back for full refund not credit. It sucks because had both boots been perfect I would be completely happy. Any ideas? m.imgur.com/a/zQhCCI'd contact G, and while waiting try to buff it out. If it does mostly come out, and G gives a good incentive to keep them, I'd keep them. If it doesn't come out, I'd return them regardless of the incentive. Edit: Completely missed a set of pics. That looks pretty bad. It would take a big incentive for me to keep them.
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Post by seth on Dec 31, 2015 14:55:42 GMT -6
Got the natural boots. Positive: I like the color, style, fit. Negative: Big QC fail on my pair. I think you will see in the pictures below that the left shoe is made the way it should and the right shoe is like a 2nd quality shoe. The leather has these lines as if it were set up to be sewn differently. The outer part of the leather near the shoe laces is a little loose on one part and just F-ed on another. The inside is even worse. There's a section that looks like they sewed it up and it was off and removed the stitching and tried like 3 more times. I really want to love these but they fail compared to my G sneakers which were flawless. I'm going to send them back but part of me wants to keep them but they'd need to give me something back. Otherwise they are going back for full refund not credit. It sucks because had both boots been perfect I would be completely happy. Any ideas? m.imgur.com/a/zQhCCYes, Gustin screwed up the stitching and missed it in quality control. Any manufacturer would sell those as seconds. Personally, I'd either send them back for a full refund or keep them at half price (i.e. purchased as if they were seconds). Edit: In addition to all the things you listed, I also think the top four eyelets are unevenly spaced especially on the left boot. The more I look at them, the more I think that simply returning them is best. I didn't see pics of the inside. Even at half price, I'd be annoyed with them. Sorry.
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Post by Old26 on Dec 31, 2015 15:40:50 GMT -6
Got the natural boots. Positive: I like the color, style, fit. Negative: Big QC fail on my pair. I think you will see in the pictures below that the left shoe is made the way it should and the right shoe is like a 2nd quality shoe. The leather has these lines as if it were set up to be sewn differently. The outer part of the leather near the shoe laces is a little loose on one part and just F-ed on another. The inside is even worse. There's a section that looks like they sewed it up and it was off and removed the stitching and tried like 3 more times. I really want to love these but they fail compared to my G sneakers which were flawless. I'm going to send them back but part of me wants to keep them but they'd need to give me something back. Otherwise they are going back for full refund not credit. It sucks because had both boots been perfect I would be completely happy. Any ideas? m.imgur.com/a/zQhCCYes, Gustin screwed up the stitching and missed it in quality control. Any manufacturer would sell those as seconds. Personally, I'd either send them back for a full refund or keep them at half price (i.e. purchased as if they were seconds). Edit: In addition to all the things you listed, I also think the top four eyelets are unevenly spaced especially on the left boot. The more I look at them, the more I think that simply returning them is best. I didn't see pics of the inside. Even at half price, I'd be annoyed with them. Sorry. And this is why when buying critical pieces like boots and jackets, you stick to the pros.
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Post by devastitis on Dec 31, 2015 15:49:19 GMT -6
Got the natural boots. Positive: I like the color, style, fit. Negative: Big QC fail on my pair. I think you will see in the pictures below that the left shoe is made the way it should and the right shoe is like a 2nd quality shoe. The leather has these lines as if it were set up to be sewn differently. The outer part of the leather near the shoe laces is a little loose on one part and just F-ed on another. The inside is even worse. There's a section that looks like they sewed it up and it was off and removed the stitching and tried like 3 more times. I really want to love these but they fail compared to my G sneakers which were flawless. I'm going to send them back but part of me wants to keep them but they'd need to give me something back. Otherwise they are going back for full refund not credit. It sucks because had both boots been perfect I would be completely happy. Any ideas? m.imgur.com/a/zQhCCYes, Gustin screwed up the stitching and missed it in quality control. Any manufacturer would sell those as seconds. Personally, I'd either send them back for a full refund or keep them at half price (i.e. purchased as if they were seconds). Edit: In addition to all the things you listed, I also think the top four eyelets are unevenly spaced especially on the left boot. The more I look at them, the more I think that simply returning them is best. I didn't see pics of the inside. Even at half price, I'd be annoyed with them. Sorry. Honestly, I'd be surprised if G doesn't just let him keep them, and give him a refund. They can't sell these. And the four eyelets seem to be what they were going for, as it also appears in the other boots on Reddit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 1:32:03 GMT -6
Yes, Gustin screwed up the stitching and missed it in quality control. Any manufacturer would sell those as seconds. Personally, I'd either send them back for a full refund or keep them at half price (i.e. purchased as if they were seconds). Edit: In addition to all the things you listed, I also think the top four eyelets are unevenly spaced especially on the left boot. The more I look at them, the more I think that simply returning them is best. I didn't see pics of the inside. Even at half price, I'd be annoyed with them. Sorry. And this is why when buying critical pieces like boots and jackets, you stick to the pros. Though I waited months for a pair of special run Aldens and ended up getting a pair that shouldn't have made it out of a Q.C. cycle either. Would love to see some percentages of quality returns across different makers. Painful to receive a dud anytime, especially painful after a long wait.
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Post by Griffin on Jan 1, 2016 5:27:12 GMT -6
Looking at these and the reddit pics it looks like i won the lottery, mine are flaweless in the leather and looks very good.
Only two complaints i have is the start and end of the welt is what it is but i knew this going in, and the speedhooks are bad, misaligned and too narrow, so im just gonna take EM all in one big swoop so to speak, they cant be used normally unless you skip some.
I got a huuge refund for something back then so only gave acoupple of dollars for mine lol so im very pleased.
But you others who have them....can they be lugsoled straight away or do i need to wear off the wax?
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Jan 1, 2016 11:31:41 GMT -6
Sizing seems all over. I know I'm a 7.5 or 8 in RW. 8 in Chips. 9 in New Balance. Soooo an 8 in Gustin? or a 7?
Edit: Also the photos in that reddit review look horrible. Boots seem pretty dinged up.
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 1, 2016 12:12:24 GMT -6
I got my boots in dark brown yesterday and they are awesome. And the fit is perfect too. If it helps anyone, I went with my exact size in Chuck Taylors and that was the right call.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 1, 2016 14:32:17 GMT -6
Honest question: who else sells a similar boot in similar style at a similar price point in natural leather? Anyone?
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Post by Old26 on Jan 1, 2016 15:12:00 GMT -6
Honest question: who else sells a similar boot in similar style at a similar price point in natural leather? Anyone? Dunno, but I never (sans jackets) ever pay retail on anything, let alone boots. For that price and less, I get the real deal year 'round.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 1, 2016 15:13:04 GMT -6
Honest question: who else sells a similar boot in similar style at a similar price point in natural leather? Anyone? You might be able to find one if you're not tied to US made, but I haven't yet. The argument then quickly shifts to "but for a quality boot I'd happily pay X", but for many people they simply aren't there yet, and many others never will be (those are the people buying construction boots at wal-mart every six months because they "can't afford" anything better when if they were buying quality their feet and backs wouldn't hurt, and they'd last four times as long). There are also those that literally can't afford to spend $200 on shoes regardless, let alone $500 or more.
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Post by kylepa on Jan 1, 2016 15:22:23 GMT -6
No one I can think of. Man, lots of mixed reviews here. I guess it wouldn't be Gustin if it were any different. I decided to wait and see how the first run went before ordering any G footwear. After reading up it looks like I'll be saving for Alden boots and grabbing some Gustin sneaks.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 1, 2016 15:23:28 GMT -6
Sizing seems all over. I know I'm a 7.5 or 8 in RW. 8 in Chips. 9 in New Balance. Soooo an 8 in Gustin? or a 7? Edit: Also the photos in that reddit review look horrible. Boots seem pretty dinged up. If they drop the inferno tan again, or maybe the natural or a pair in that concrete horween they offered a simple wallet out of, I plan to go with my red wing size. I haven't read impressions and reviews on reddit yet, though, so that would be done at said time. I am also no more fond of the 270 welt than I was when they first dropped the boots, I think they lose balance on the heel because of it. I didn't used to take issue with the speed-hooks, but seeing the production pictures close up, I now do. They just seem far too close to each other. For the price, on something of an occasional wear boot (especially in concrete), though, I'd make do and likely pull one or two off of each side. The Gustin boys don't seem to have trouble tying and untying them, though, so it might just look worse than it is when put under a microscope.
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Post by devastitis on Jan 1, 2016 15:35:52 GMT -6
No one I can think of. Man, lots of mixed reviews here. I guess it wouldn't be Gustin if it were any different. I decided to wait and see how the first run went before ordering any G footwear. After reading up it looks like I'll be saving for Alden boots and grabbing some Gustin sneaks. Exactly this.
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Post by mkeview on Jan 1, 2016 15:38:49 GMT -6
I have red wings, wolverine, and Alden indys. My pair is not close to any of those. But as has been mentioned you can get close to $200 with sales, deals, eBay etc. My only other consideration for natural boot was OSB but that's not in the same price range.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 1, 2016 16:02:29 GMT -6
I have red wings, wolverine, and Alden indys. My pair is not close to any of those. But as has been mentioned you can get close to $200 with sales, deals, eBay etc. My only other consideration for natural boot was OSB but that's not in the same price range. Are you referring to quality or sizing? Admittedly, there is no excuse for that stitching on your pair, regardless of price-point.
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Post by mkeview on Jan 1, 2016 16:08:47 GMT -6
Quality. Sizing I'm a solid 9.5 in RW/Wolverine and 9D in Indy 405. 9.5 in the G boots but did 9 in the sneakers.
And I agree on the stitching part.
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 1, 2016 17:51:19 GMT -6
I have red wings, wolverine, and Alden indys. My pair is not close to any of those. But as has been mentioned you can get close to $200 with sales, deals, eBay etc. My only other consideration for natural boot was OSB but that's not in the same price range. For what it's worth my pair is as nice and on par with my Red Wing Beckman Chukkas. Red Wings aren't perfect btw, I had to return the first pair because the heels literally peeled in half on both boots
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 20:32:26 GMT -6
finally used up the $55 of credit i've had for over a year and backed the sienna-green low tops. not positive about sizing, but looking forward to getting them (april)
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Post by devastitis on Jan 2, 2016 20:37:55 GMT -6
finally used up the $55 of credit i've had for over a year and backed the sienna-green low tops. not positive about sizing, but looking forward to getting them (april) Awesome. Looking to use the rest of my credit on green or blue tailed white low tops.
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Post by Griffin on Jan 4, 2016 14:48:33 GMT -6
So what is the sum of sizing the sneaker?
Could people say their size in converse and then Gustins that would help since we all have a pair of converse. And please state if they are all-stars/varvatos/purcells/premium/etc
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Post by mkeview on Jan 4, 2016 16:20:18 GMT -6
I received a response from Ren. Issued a full refund and I am sending the boots back. They are returning them to be remade or having the manufacturer refund them. Wish I had gotten a top quality pair. Going to have to look elsewhere for some natural boots.
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