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Post by bwillis2006 on Jun 1, 2015 19:37:32 GMT -6
Do the employees at these location know about this? This is just another example that little, or none, due deligence is conducted with this business, as it appears to be run on the fly. Or an example of a business that quickly grew, and is expanding into a bigger and better facility. Just a thought... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 19:51:44 GMT -6
clownshoes
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Post by julian on Jun 2, 2015 2:21:19 GMT -6
The only problem I've found is that the button-holer appears to need some adjustment, I'm going to have to open the holes up a bit so that I can button the fly on both (the green more than the cone), they're not cut as wide as the button hole stitching and unfortunately not cut quite as wide as the buttons. My pair had exactly the same issue. All of the fly button holes were just slightly too small/tight. It took some working with a butter knife to get the holes to open enough to be able to button the jeans but since wearing them the general buttoning & unbuttoning process has meant they're fine now. |
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Post by chrisdoth on Jun 2, 2015 4:08:00 GMT -6
Once LA is up and running I will be closing down the Tucson and Phx Factories. Doesn't make sense to keep these. They put out a great product but way to slow. I can not find enough skilled people to sew in this desert. Do the employees at these location know about this? What great motivation to get through the remaining long delayed custom orders  |
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Post by natpark on Jun 2, 2015 5:24:59 GMT -6
The only problem I've found is that the button-holer appears to need some adjustment, I'm going to have to open the holes up a bit so that I can button the fly on both (the green more than the cone), they're not cut as wide as the button hole stitching and unfortunately not cut quite as wide as the buttons. My pair had exactly the same issue. All of the fly button holes were just slightly too small/tight. It took some working with a butter knife to get the holes to open enough to be able to button the jeans but since wearing them the general buttoning & unbuttoning process has meant they're fine now. With my pair, I had the opposite problem. Out of the bag, I thought the button holes were too big/loose. |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Jun 2, 2015 21:07:20 GMT -6
Shipping label created Monday morning. Tuesday night and they still haven't made it to the post office.
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Post by exophobe on Jun 3, 2015 0:16:11 GMT -6
So I've gotta be honest here, I'm not really feeling too enthused about taking a bunch of pictures of these, though I will likely do it after I give 'em a warm wash and start wearing them. In any event, here's some photo evidence that they did show up, regardless of how frustrating the process was. The yokes are good, the alignment isn't perfect through the four way seam in the crotch, but this is rare, even rarer on a pair of jeans under $100, and matches the custom pair I got. If this is something you're really sensitive about, you've been warned. Beyond that, the stitching is pretty solid, none of the wavy stitch that has been present on some photos that have been shared. Otherwise the details are there, chain-stitched hem, triple inseam chain-stitch... Only other thing that seams worth mentioning is that the selvedge outseam on the cone 16s wasn't pressed flat, where it has been on everything else I've gotten from LD&CO.  this is way washed out, wasn't going to share it but it shows some fairly clean stitching, so I thought you guys might care.  Four-way seam example (Cone 16) -- I guess there's a little bit of a waver in the stitching here, but anyone looking at my crotch that close isn't checking out the seams of my jeans:  and here's a chain-stitched hem, flat pressed outseam, etc:  Overall, quality jeans, great price, and nearly requires the patience of a saint regardless of the way you order. I really hope they run through the backlog and get back on their feet with ready to wear. If they pull it off, and continue sourcing interesting fabrics at a great price-point, I'll be back for more, but this scientist is hanging up his Lawless lab-coat until the business model passes peer review. |
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Post by drstrange on Jun 3, 2015 3:15:33 GMT -6
a bit belatedly I read Roman's intervista of Sunday (?) evening ... to be honest, the "LD-model" is the strangest way of running a business, I've ever come across .... I've never heard of a manufacturing company switching it's premises (no matter how small the premises actually are) three times within less than a year - the amount of investment (timewise and financially) to set up a factory running, usually takes years to pay-back ... also (but this is a smaller issue) I find it amazing that Roman on one hand claims a 40 piece order of kevlar-jeans (I guess those were not too much customized) was such a nightmare, whilst 5min later projecting producing up to 10'000 pairs a months in next future ... either Roman is the business genius of the 21st Century or this:  |
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Post by quick on Jun 3, 2015 9:02:50 GMT -6
For now I would have to say no. This is strictly production. Give me some time and I will open the doors to the public. I'm just not sure people will want to come this part of LA to visit. It's a little rough! , what part of LA is it? I was born and raised in Los Angeles and there's no neighborhood I am afraid to go into. id be surprised if it was far from the fashion district. |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Jun 3, 2015 10:42:35 GMT -6
Jeans finally in the mail.
If these don't fit, is anyone interested in them? 32 waist IxI and Candiani 13 oz. I'd rather sell them than return.
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Post by Winterland on Jun 3, 2015 11:42:15 GMT -6
Shipping label created Monday morning. Tuesday night and they still haven't made it to the post office. My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Jun 3, 2015 11:52:47 GMT -6
Shipping label created Monday morning. Tuesday night and they still haven't made it to the post office. My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. Wow. |
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Jun 3, 2015 11:56:48 GMT -6
Shipping label created Monday morning. Tuesday night and they still haven't made it to the post office. My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. I wouldn't even mess with messaging. Call them and get someone on the phone. Emily is actually helpful. |
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Post by univibe88 on Jun 3, 2015 12:25:18 GMT -6
Roman is broadcasting on Periscope right now, shopping for denim. He said he is ramping up the next run of RTW and plans to do a different denim each each for 4 weeks, 500 pairs each week.
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Post by quick on Jun 3, 2015 12:49:54 GMT -6
Link?
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Post by Winterland on Jun 3, 2015 13:14:31 GMT -6
My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. I wouldn't even mess with messaging. Call them and get someone on the phone. Emily is actually helpful. I agree calling is usually the best but the last time I messaged I received a response the next day. We will see. |
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Post by exophobe on Jun 3, 2015 13:24:59 GMT -6
Shipping label created Monday morning. Tuesday night and they still haven't made it to the post office. My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. After three messages through the order system I started calling after getting no response. Only took about half a day to get someone to go find it in the stuff ready to ship and ensure it went with the mailman that day. It doesn't seem that they have any way to get packages out en masse. I have no idea why that is. |
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 13:32:08 GMT -6
The irony of it all...we are "Ready to Wear" yet the denim isn't.
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 13:33:05 GMT -6
My shipping label for 5/14 order was created 5/22 and still not in the mail. I sent a message today asking what is up. After three messages through the order system I started calling after getting no response. Only took about half a day to get someone to go find it in the stuff ready to ship and ensure it went with the mailman that day. It doesn't seem that they have any way to get packages out en masse. I have no idea why that is. Unless Roman hired more folks, I think Laura is the only person handling shipping, along with whatever else he does. |
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Post by univibe88 on Jun 3, 2015 13:37:42 GMT -6
No link. It's an app. Download "periscope" and follow "ldandco" I think you can watch a replay. |
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Post by doctorcowboy on Jun 3, 2015 14:29:26 GMT -6
The irony of it all...we are "Ready to Wear" yet the denim isn't. I think someone else said it well earlier in this thread: "Ready to Wear doesn't mean Ready to Ship". Really, it almost seems like LD goes out of their way to find new and inventive ways to annoy and put off customers.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 14:37:50 GMT -6
The irony of it all...we are "Ready to Wear" yet the denim isn't. I think someone else said it well earlier in this thread: "Ready to Wear doesn't mean Ready to Ship". Really, it almost seems like LD goes out of their way to find new and inventive ways to annoy and put off customers. I don't know what ready to wear means. Isn't any order that is produced ready to wear. |
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Post by metals37 on Jun 3, 2015 15:23:54 GMT -6
I think someone else said it well earlier in this thread: "Ready to Wear doesn't mean Ready to Ship". Really, it almost seems like LD goes out of their way to find new and inventive ways to annoy and put off customers. I don't know what ready to wear means. Isn't any order that is produced ready to wear. Whatever any of us thought RTW meant, it obviously means something very different to LD. |
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Post by exophobe on Jun 3, 2015 16:31:22 GMT -6
After three messages through the order system I started calling after getting no response. Only took about half a day to get someone to go find it in the stuff ready to ship and ensure it went with the mailman that day. It doesn't seem that they have any way to get packages out en masse. I have no idea why that is. Unless Roman hired more folks, I think Laura is the only person handling shipping, along with whatever else he does. With shipping existing orders being the priority, I can't fathom why the design team isn't helping them get orders shipped instead of finding fabric for the next ready to wear launch. It's not my business, but they don't seem to understand that as far as online communities are concerned, this RTW is the last chance they're getting, and they're proving to be having the exact same problems. I really want these guys to succeed, because getting great jeans made of great fabrics shipped for less than $100 is truly compelling and stands to make a huge impression on the market, but having it sit in your shop ready to ship (packed and labeled) for 7 days and considering this SOP is silly and shows you haven't ordered anything online in about five years. |
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2015 16:37:14 GMT -6
In your left hand you have responsibilities (operations, fulfillment and business fundamentals). In your right hand, you have a shiny new toy (any social media, appeal to niche groups, attempts to focus on the marketing/social impression that you're global when you're not there yet). Guess which hand he's focused on?
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