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Post by crogers0031 on Dec 4, 2014 10:31:13 GMT -6
Me too. Thinkin about it. It's nice.
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Post by DigDug on Dec 4, 2014 10:32:21 GMT -6
On second thought, I think I like the Navy/Red one better. I like the red better but gonna pass. Have you heard of Supreme shirts? |
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Post by ickes on Dec 4, 2014 10:35:19 GMT -6
DigDug, no..never heard of them.
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 10:44:04 GMT -6
So guys, it seems that recently TS is starting to import a little bit. Whats up with that? I like the new flannes at 8oz, but really want something a little heavier. On the flannel note, I know that Ciano is looking to start doing some old school constructed shirts, with their lifetime guarantee, and is trying to source some heavy flannel, but it is tough to locate. I have lots of shirts, so I can be patient and wait for something special. Ciano told me it will be a CPO shirt. Sounds good to me.
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Post by phait on Dec 4, 2014 11:22:58 GMT -6
What's wrong with importing? The flannels are made in Portugal, not Bangladesh. I wouldn't mind a single bit if they moved all production elsewhere, so long as the goods are quality and the tailors are paid appropriately.
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 12:02:21 GMT -6
What's wrong with importing? The flannels are made in Portugal, not Bangladesh. I wouldn't mind a single bit if they moved all production elsewhere, so long as the goods are quality and the tailors are paid appropriately. I don't think anything is wrong with importing, but personally, I would prefer to buy stuff that is sourced and made in the US. That said, it needs to be of quality, and at times there are issues with USA made clothing. I would rather support people that work here, and pay taxes here, and get back to the manufacturing giant that the US used to be. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 4, 2014 13:10:58 GMT -6
I believe TS has been using this Portuguese mill for a while. I don't think it's anything new
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 4, 2014 13:30:15 GMT -6
So guys, it seems that recently TS is starting to import a little bit. Whats up with that? via Styleforum: It sounds like 1 shirt is manufactured in Portugual, that hardly sounds like they're importing their line lock, stock and barrel. |
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Post by bugula on Dec 4, 2014 13:30:17 GMT -6
On second thought, I think I like the Navy/Red one better. I like the red better but gonna pass. Have you heard of Supreme shirts? if you're talking about the streetwear brand (red label with Supreme written on it), they make quality stuff. have a flannel (lightweight) and an overshirt from them. |
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Post by bugula on Dec 4, 2014 13:32:11 GMT -6
So guys, it seems that recently TS is starting to import a little bit. Whats up with that? I like the new flannes at 8oz, but really want something a little heavier. On the flannel note, I know that Ciano is looking to start doing some old school constructed shirts, with their lifetime guarantee, and is trying to source some heavy flannel, but it is tough to locate. I have lots of shirts, so I can be patient and wait for something special. Ciano told me it will be a CPO shirt. Sounds good to me. an 8oz flannel (if weighed the same as G's moss/navy 4oz) would be a VERY substantial weight. wearing the moss/navy today and it's between a mid and heavy weight. |
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 13:39:59 GMT -6
I believe TS has been using this Portuguese mill for a while. I don't think it's anything new I have seen some other fabric that came from the Portuguese mill, and all have looked very good. If it was something I really liked, or wanted, I would not hesitate to buy it, as I have been nothing but a happy camper with regards to my TS purchases. I was only noting that these were made outside San Francisco, which is not the norm. I am delighted they have no plans to gravitate to overseas production. Keep it all here baby! |
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 13:47:54 GMT -6
So guys, it seems that recently TS is starting to import a little bit. Whats up with that? I like the new flannes at 8oz, but really want something a little heavier. On the flannel note, I know that Ciano is looking to start doing some old school constructed shirts, with their lifetime guarantee, and is trying to source some heavy flannel, but it is tough to locate. I have lots of shirts, so I can be patient and wait for something special. Ciano told me it will be a CPO shirt. Sounds good to me. an 8oz flannel (if weighed the same as G's moss/navy 4oz) would be a VERY substantial weight. wearing the moss/navy today and it's between a mid and heavy weight. 8oz. is a decent weight for sure, but I'm on the lookout for a 10-12oz ala IH, but without the $300 price tag. I'm blessed to the point where I really don't need any shirts, but would pick up something that knocks my socks off. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 4, 2014 13:55:10 GMT -6
davelewis, yeah I hear ya man...and trust me I always felt the same as you and I searched high and wide for a 10-12 oz flannel ala IH that was wasn't IH and was at a cheaper price, but you know what...they just aren't out there. At least I haven't found them yet. Unfortunately IH is really the only player imo in the heavyweight flannel department right now. That's why I finally bit the bullet and bought one. But yeah, 8 oz is definitely a solid weight for a flannel imo and is about as light as I would want to go these days. I'm very tempted to pull the trigger on this navy/red TS flannel.
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 14:05:47 GMT -6
davelewis, yeah I hear ya man...and trust me I always felt the same as you and I searched high and wide for a 10-12 oz flannel ala IH that was wasn't IH and was at a cheaper price, but you know what...they just aren't out there. At least I haven't found them yet. Unfortunately IH is really the only player imo in the heavyweight flannel department right now. That's why I finally bit the bullet and bought one. But yeah, 8 oz is definitely a solid weight for a flannel imo and is about as light as I would want to go these days. I'm very tempted to pull the trigger on this navy/red TS flannel. Ickes, when I first saw these, the first thing I did was check the weight on them, and if it would have been 10oz, I would have bought it. So so close. I know Ciano is looking for some heavy flannel, and I'm probably sure Roman is too, but like you said, it just doesn't seem to be available. It seem weird that a niche company like IH has a corner on the market. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 14:07:55 GMT -6
they addressed some of this recently in a comment on IG:
"Depends on the shirt @trimhound. We produce at two different factories. Our fine shirting and some of our harder to sew heavy fabrics are done at a small family shirt maker in Portugal because the factory is better set up for it. We make a bunch of our casual stuff like oxfords in San Francisco."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 14:31:38 GMT -6
davelewis, yeah I hear ya man...and trust me I always felt the same as you and I searched high and wide for a 10-12 oz flannel ala IH that was wasn't IH and was at a cheaper price, but you know what...they just aren't out there. At least I haven't found them yet. Unfortunately IH is really the only player imo in the heavyweight flannel department right now. That's why I finally bit the bullet and bought one. But yeah, 8 oz is definitely a solid weight for a flannel imo and is about as light as I would want to go these days. I'm very tempted to pull the trigger on this navy/red TS flannel. Ickes, when I first saw these, the first thing I did was check the weight on them, and if it would have been 10oz, I would have bought it. So so close. I know Ciano is looking for some heavy flannel, and I'm probably sure Roman is too, but like you said, it just doesn't seem to be available. It seem weird that a niche company like IH has a corner on the market. If there is not so much hatred about Chinese garment industries here, I am sure Ciano and Roman probably can find us some very heavy flannel fabric from China. The technology from many of the Chinese mills are very advanced compared to the rest of the world. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 4, 2014 14:38:25 GMT -6
davelewis, I know it seemed odd to me too that IH would have the monopoly on that. When I first saw the IH flannels I thought, "ok, these are damn beautiful and expensive but it's just a heavy flannel so there has to be more out there". Well damn, after searching around I realized how wrong I was. A heavy flannel in the 10-12 oz range is actually quite rare it seems. Plus, the flannel fabrics that IH uses are made for IH and so far as I've seen, once they are all sold out they are not restocked. They only release a new version the following year with new fabrics. So this actually makes the IH heavy flannels pretty damn rare. chances are you aren't going to be out at a bar and run in to another dude wearing the same flannel as you. Where I live the IH heavyweight flannels are dam near considered a jacket. My IH thermals and my heavyweight flannel will get me through a Phoenix winter for the most part so it makes the price of them a little easier to swallow. I know that plenty of people spend well over 345.00 on a jacket. Still tempeted by the TS navy/red flannel 
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Post by davelewis on Dec 4, 2014 15:04:02 GMT -6
Ickes, when I first saw these, the first thing I did was check the weight on them, and if it would have been 10oz, I would have bought it. So so close. I know Ciano is looking for some heavy flannel, and I'm probably sure Roman is too, but like you said, it just doesn't seem to be available. It seem weird that a niche company like IH has a corner on the market. If there is not so much hatred about Chinese garment industries here, I am sure Ciano and Roman probably can find us some very heavy flannel fabric from China. The technology from many of the Chinese mills are very advanced compared to the rest of the world. Not to debate about Chinese Mills, but why don't the mills in the US get off their asses and make us some? |
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Post by brentkuz on Dec 4, 2014 16:29:51 GMT -6
Portuguese mills make the best chamois!
8oz would be quite heavy. As ickes said depends where you live and what your climate is. In 45-55 degree weather the IH 12oz flannel holds up well for for shorter time outside. With a warm coat on it's even better.
8oz wouldn't be jacket like but it would be quite heavy.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 4, 2014 19:49:30 GMT -6
So guys, it seems that recently TS is starting to import a little bit. Whats up with that? I like the new flannes at 8oz, but really want something a little heavier. On the flannel note, I know that Ciano is looking to start doing some old school constructed shirts, with their lifetime guarantee, and is trying to source some heavy flannel, but it is tough to locate. I have lots of shirts, so I can be patient and wait for something special. Ciano told me it will be a CPO shirt. Sounds good to me. I haven't caught up on the day, but they have started doing a lot of shirts with a shop that's apparently very good at making shirts in Portugal. I haven't gotten any of the made in Portugal stuff so I can't comment on it, but the pictures look nice. If they're coming out of the same shop in San Francisco as a lot of the Gustin stuff, honestly I can understand why they'd be working with others. They have an official line on this somewhere, but it's basically "our goal is to work with the best shops around, and these guys in Portugal are tops". |
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Post by ickes on Dec 5, 2014 15:16:37 GMT -6
The Yosemite shirt is made of Portuguese chamois and it is a very nice fabric and a very nice shirt. I received my Slate Yosemite yesterday and I ordered a 42 but they sent me a 40 by accident. I immediately contacted TS CS and explained the situation. The slate Yosemite is selling fast and there was only one 42 left so I was a bit worried I'd be SOL. Mina from CS emailed me back and was extremely apologetic for thr mix up
so she went and grabbed me the last 42 they had and has already sent it out to me and sent me the tracking # as well. She said to just send my 40 back whenever I get a chance.
This is customer service fellas. I am very pleased with Taylor Stitch all around.
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Post by bugula on Dec 5, 2014 16:10:20 GMT -6
TS has great customer service. I love the fact that they send a shipping label for returns - even if it's your own sizing issue. I had to size down in their camp pants and up in a shirt and had a shipping label within hours.
Also, I backed two pairs of their chinos from the workshop - unfortunately not enough were made of one of the two colors and I didn't make the cut. So with the one pair I did receive, they sent me a check to refund my purchase, a pair of socks as a sorry gift, and a note explaining the situation with a handwritten message.
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Post by wisdom on Dec 5, 2014 16:23:53 GMT -6
Agree with the customer service comment. I made a request to return a project jacket in pine.. took three emails (I attribute it to the holidays), but they emailed me a return label and said they'd send a check. Thought it was odd that they said they'd send a check, but they DID comply with my request.
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Post by ickes on Dec 5, 2014 16:28:11 GMT -6
they really do bugula. Everytime I've had any issue they have dealt with it swiftly and have gone above and beyond. |
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Post by bugula on Dec 5, 2014 17:18:18 GMT -6
Agree with the customer service comment. I made a request to return a project jacket in pine.. took three emails (I attribute it to the holidays), but they emailed me a return label and said they'd send a check. Thought it was odd that they said they'd send a check, but they DID comply with my request. Yeah, I don't quite get the checks. I know it saves them some fees not having to do a refund back to a card. Curious, why'd you send the pine jacket back? I got mine last week and am happy with it - it's a little bigger in the mid-section than I was hoping for but sweaters have filled that in nicely. |
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