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Post by davito on Sept 2, 2015 11:38:00 GMT -6
wearing my 109 and 666 loombreakers today  |
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Post by davito on Sept 2, 2015 11:42:59 GMT -6
the day I got my green 107 last year love this shirt a lot. prepare yourself for the new flannel season guys   |
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Post by david2403 on Sept 2, 2015 12:10:45 GMT -6
wearing my 109 and 666 loombreakers today Is that an Iron Heart shirt? |
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Post by davito on Sept 2, 2015 12:12:41 GMT -6
Yessir thats the 109
OG was the famous 20, then 72, then 109, this f/w will be 127 iirc
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Post by ickes on Sept 2, 2015 12:21:28 GMT -6
the day I got my green 107 last year love this shirt a lot. prepare yourself for the new flannel season guys I am all over the green buffalo check this year! All over it! |
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Post by ickes on Sept 2, 2015 12:22:51 GMT -6
the day I got my green 107 last year love this shirt a lot. prepare yourself for the new flannel season guys The 107 is bad ass. I copped the black one last year |
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Post by brentkuz on Sept 2, 2015 12:36:01 GMT -6
I copped the red 107. I also love the 102 flannel.
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Post by davito on Sept 3, 2015 12:04:23 GMT -6
yeah the 107 is one of the best of the UHF's. I have also the red but passed on the black one as I had the 87 then (but sold it later lol). right now wearing the red 107 and just ordered one of the last 102 in small before the run onto the new drops begins,  |
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Post by brentkuz on Sept 3, 2015 17:03:10 GMT -6
Can't wait for the new batch of UHFs
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Post by tashdaddy on Sept 6, 2015 8:36:31 GMT -6
Respectfully, who can justify selling, much less purchasing, a belt for $400, or a brass chain with a fish hook and a dog tag for $160? I really want to understand, because this brand makes amazing stuff, but...
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Post by brentkuz on Sept 6, 2015 10:30:25 GMT -6
It's nutty pricing. It's like high end fashion house prices.
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Post by david2403 on Sept 6, 2015 10:57:40 GMT -6
Can't wait for the new batch of UHFs What is UHF? I thought it was a TV channel. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 6, 2015 11:28:41 GMT -6
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Post by david2403 on Sept 6, 2015 12:03:11 GMT -6
whiskeyriver I prefer the ultra heavy flannels. Thanks
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Post by ickes on Sept 6, 2015 12:03:12 GMT -6
Can't wait for the new batch of UHFs What is UHF? I thought it was a TV channel. Ultra Heavy Flannel. Generally a 12oz flannel fabric released by IH |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Sept 7, 2015 22:52:19 GMT -6
So when does IH release new stuff? Need some new shirting, and I'm hoping that they release new plain t-shirts as I cannot find them anywhere (not even on IHUK).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 23:16:11 GMT -6
For some reason, plain t-shirt releases are few and far between... Baffles me. But, I think it's to protect revenue. Definitely, I wear t-shirts more than I wear button-ups though... And now that I have 10 cut and sewn shirts, I'm slowing down and slightly less interested in button-ups.
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Post by ickes on Sept 8, 2015 3:18:16 GMT -6
So when does IH release new stuff? Need some new shirting, and I'm hoping that they release new plain t-shirts as I cannot find them anywhere (not even on IHUK). Whenever they release it. IH doesn't have designated drop days like some other brands. There aren't any blank Ts coming in the near future |
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Post by wdw on Sept 8, 2015 3:32:06 GMT -6
The IH business model confuses me. I get that IHUK design stuff and sell it exclusively, but that must push the unit cost up as it in effect bars Japanese customers from buying, especially at the higher prices.
Why not increase production, reduce prices and sell more of the stuff in Japan?
Also they seem to have limited runs which often sell out quickly, like the UHF. Why not make and sell more of sure-fire hits?
I'm sensing that maintaining higher prices by limiting availability and exclusivity is where they're at. Shame, as I'd definitely get more if the prices were lower and more stuff was actually available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 4:29:17 GMT -6
So, the items that are IHUK exclusive seem to me, that they wouldn't sell very well in Japan... I.e. 777 or 555 fit, and some shirts. The Japanese IH crowd are more in to exactly what IHJP sells... Notice IHJP has items that IHUK and SE don't, like boot cut and flare jeans and also many of the jackets. Oh, and workshirts. Japanese love the workshirts, and IHUK/SE customers don't.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 8, 2015 6:33:56 GMT -6
So, the items that are IHUK exclusive seem to me, that they wouldn't sell very well in Japan... I.e. 777 or 555 fit, and some shirts. The Japanese IH crowd are more in to exactly what IHJP sells... Notice IHJP has items that IHUK and SE don't, like boot cut and flare jeans and also many of the jackets. Oh, and workshirts. Japanese love the workshirts, and IHUK/SE customers don't. Really? |
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Post by seth on Sept 8, 2015 6:55:42 GMT -6
The IH business model confuses me. I get that IHUK design stuff and sell it exclusively, but that must push the unit cost up as it in effect bars Japanese customers from buying, especially at the higher prices. Why not increase production, reduce prices and sell more of the stuff in Japan? Also they seem to have limited runs which often sell out quickly, like the UHF. Why not make and sell more of sure-fire hits? I'm sensing that maintaining higher prices by limiting availability and exclusivity is where they're at. Shame, as I'd definitely get more if the prices were lower and more stuff was actually available. It used to confuse me too, but now I basically get it. The question is about economic elasticity as it applies to IH goods and also about building a business within the constraints of fixed production capacity. (For an overview of elasticity, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticity_(economics) It's a good read.) The IH UK business model is based on lower volume, restricted distribution, limited availability, higher prices, and therefore higher margins. You prefer higher volume, open distribution, lower prices, and lower margins for the seller. Totally different models. As I understand it, IH UK is dependent on IH JP with their fixed production capabilities, so given limited production capacity, then a model of restricted distribution and higher margins is effective to maximize revenue. They can't scale up production and re-price the way you suggest. In other words, it is unlikely that IH UK can get IH JP to triple production volume so IH UK could cut the price and increase sales volume. (This is moving the product along the elasticity curve.) Also, they might not want to: they've already built a brand based on exclusivity and higher prices. There's another entire topic to discuss about IH UK selling back into the Japan market. Basically, they don't do it at all. As I understand it, IH JP sells inside Japan via a number of domestic retailers. IH UK has a contractual lock on all sales outside Japan via both IH UK itself and their other retailers. It's like IH JP is a wholesaler to IH UK and does custom collaborations for IH UK that appeal to the Western market. IH UK, in turn, is a re-distributor to other Western retailers like the Self Edge stores and others. See how you are going to get some mark up along the way? |
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Post by DigDug on Sept 8, 2015 7:18:34 GMT -6
We had asked Giles about the relationship between IHUK, Rakuten and SelfEdge. This was his responce - "We supply all of the retailers outside of Japan, which obviously includes Self Edge, Rakuten sellers buy from Iron Heart Japan and they primarily serve the Japanese market and often do not actually carry stock. The reason there is a price differential is that we have to pay for shipping (both to us and then to end users or retailers), pay taxes, support a network of retailers, carry stock (we have the largest stock of Iron Heart anywhere in the world including Iron Heart Japan). We also invest in the development of new products that are not available in Japan. Retailers have to make a decent margin or else they would not exist, they have staff and premises to fund. We therefore sell at the same price as retailers or else they would (rightly) get pissed off with us and probably stop selling the product which would give you guys less direct access to Iron Heart. We also have a no quibble returns policy which obviously costs us." Does that answer your question?" br] Read more: selvedgestyle.com/thread/985/interview-giles-iron-heart-uk?page=3#ixzz3l9WunxWS |
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Post by DigDug on Sept 8, 2015 7:26:05 GMT -6
I've been limiting my use of the web lately (dumped IG,FB, other Forums. Even marked as Spam the emails from Retailers . Spent to much time on them, I feel so much better! (Staying here on the SS forum is about it). I really would would like to know if a Heavy Flannel comes available from IH in an XL-XXL (Rakuten only seems to have the smaller sizes and I'm not surfing around any more). So if you get a notice of a Heavy Flannel release, please let me know. |
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Post by exophobe on Sept 8, 2015 8:02:16 GMT -6
I've been limiting my use of the web lately (dumped IG,FB, other Forums. Even marked as Spam the emails from Retailers . Spent to much time on them, I feel so much better! (Staying here on the SS forum is about it). I really would would like to know if a Heavy Flannel comes available from IH in an XL-XXL (Rakuten only seems to have the smaller sizes and I'm not surfing around any more). So if you get a notice of a Heavy Flannel release, please let me know. If you sign up for them you shouldn't report as spam, since that effects whether or not systems see them as spam rather than legitimate communication. This can be a problem for some threshold reporting systems, causing undue work for retailers to keep their email getting to people that are asking for it, and the processes By which to get yourself removed from those is typically a nightmare dealing with automated systems. If it's not actually spam, you should use the unsubscribe function they make available. |
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