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Post by exophobe on Oct 11, 2014 12:35:49 GMT -6
This is not meant to be apologetic or to make excuses, but it should be mentioned that these are hand-made garments, and there will inherently be flaws in them. I haven't gone and started digging through racks of clothes at stores, but these are hand-cut and sewn, as opposed to the likely largely machine driven mass produced offerings. Does Levi's have sewing robots? Is there a How It's Made?
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 11, 2014 12:37:03 GMT -6
Let me just say that all the complaining about GUSTIN sizing, rivets & pockets not being lined up are all in line with the price paid for Gustin. Most larger brands have gone thru shrink test, sewing test, dying test (which has a relation to shrinking) before an item is released. I know I keep going to IH but I am not kidding when I say this. They will make a jean or a shirt & scrap it if it isnt shrinking the right way or sewing up right before sending it to production. They also know the factories very well so they know what to expect. Go read the IH forum and see how an item is released. You will not see bull shit like a damn back pocket like I got happening there. Now am I going to stop buying Gustin because of these things..maybe but then again where can I get some cool fabric (lawless aside) for under $100. I think we need to just face the facts that Gustin is NOT a Samurai or & Mister Freedom so we shouldn't think their jeans should be perfect because if they were they would cost $200-$400 period. Gustin cuts corners & the larger brands do not ..do u think Gustin has some special contacts to find denim & get them made that Iron Heart cant set up themselves...No they are a brand that is willing to bring nice denim but with an occasional flaw & know that the percentage that get flawed items will be out weighed by the items that are acceptable. Making good products is not like batting average in baseball 3 out of 10 is bad or even 2 out of 10
My point is they are what they are worth & sometimes worth a bit more when done right but never are they worth less than the price they are sold for
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Post by exophobe on Oct 11, 2014 12:50:38 GMT -6
Nevermind, they all do it the same way..
I like the video at nine minutes, they divulge how to get sick fades.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 11, 2014 12:58:37 GMT -6
DD, that's one of the better posts I've seen on the subject, but I do think that maybe Gustin sets themselves up for it with " these would cost upwards of <dollar amount> done the other guys way", but once you look into it you realize what they mean, and which corners have to be cut. I think the way they respond to those complaints is what leaves a bad taste, though.
I guess the thing is, it has to come down to a service experience when things go wrong, cause there is a lot of passion involved when you wait a few months for something to come back. I think Cody does work hard to make these right, but you can only make someone so happy when there is no stock to pull from.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 11, 2014 13:01:50 GMT -6
I can tell you, though, short of lawless, there's nobody doing what Gustin is doing anywhere near their price point. When looking for unique denim, Gustin is the place. I'm sure lawless will do well if they keep the business side in check, but the website makes it hard to trust they're ready for game time.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 11, 2014 13:15:57 GMT -6
I will stop flooding this forum after this, but I wanted to say one last thing. When I started with Gustin, I ordered four pair over the first couple months. The first pair that showed up, the slate, was tight as hell, but I could get into them with a little work. Then I believe the heavy American showed up. On a 33 straight, the waist came in right at 33. At that point, I didn't know how well stretch would work out, but I figured I'd just need to lose some weight and it'd be alright. Then the Italian blue x black. The waist on these was right about 32.75. I sent an email to Gustin saying what the hell is going on, but I didn't like the options so I just kept them.
To combat this, I slowed down on ordering, and when they put up stuff I was interested in, I backed in a 34 straight, and then slim, and when they were just too big, and josh gustin mentioned a renewed vigor on the QC front I moved back to 33 slim. the last five pairs I've received have been in spec, and I'm happy with them, even though it seems different issues are popping up recently. I will probably kinda lose my patience if these work shirts flop though.
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