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Post by dshan7 on Nov 9, 2015 12:41:00 GMT -6
Got my first response from Ldandco in months...they actually replied via the website. I'm genuinely shocked. I returned a pair sent in the wrong size months and months ago (never got my promised refund) and have a second pair in the wrong size sitting in my closet.
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Post by kurtm on Nov 9, 2015 16:26:10 GMT -6
I have noticed that their resurrected website only lists regular jeans. No chinos, shirts or jackets. I am assuming that any other items are not a possibility.
I actually waited until the last minute to get my charges reversed, hoping that the ship would turn. When I got no response from their emails or phone, the doors closed and the website came down I took it as a hint. I am actually surprised that anything is going out and am very happy to hear that some items are still going out. Good luck to the few and I am happy for you.
I really wanted the type II jacket from them and to tell you the truth; if they would have responded I probably would have waited some more.
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Post by jdtmn on Nov 9, 2015 16:30:33 GMT -6
Got my first response from Ldandco in months...they actually replied via the website. I'm genuinely shocked. I returned a pair sent in the wrong size months and months ago (never got my promised refund) and have a second pair in the wrong size sitting in my closet. Let me guess at the response. Was it something like "Send in the second pair and we'll pretend that we will take care of you! As for the first pair you returned, we have already re-sold them as part of our ready to ship line been swamped and overwhelmed by how easy it is to get away with not delivering products for which we have been paid the enthusiasm and support for our product. Our insincere and shallow apologies for the delay but a pair of the correct size are definitely no where near being packed and ready to ship in the next week. Thank you for your support. We realize all we need to do is periodically send out a random note and item to someone on the board to string the faith along. Without you, we couldn't do what we do!"
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Post by dshan7 on Nov 9, 2015 16:56:34 GMT -6
Got my first response from Ldandco in months...they actually replied via the website. I'm genuinely shocked. I returned a pair sent in the wrong size months and months ago (never got my promised refund) and have a second pair in the wrong size sitting in my closet. Let me guess at the response. Was it something like "Send in the second pair and we'll pretend that we will take care of you! As for the first pair you returned, we have already re-sold them as part of our ready to ship line been swamped and overwhelmed by how easy it is to get away with not delivering products for which we have been paid the enthusiasm and support for our product. Our insincere and shallow apologies for the delay but a pair of the correct size are definitely no where near being packed and ready to ship in the next week. Thank you for your support. We realize all we need to do is periodically send out a random note and item to someone on the board to string the faith along. Without you, we couldn't do what we do!" Ha-ha, i know they already sold the return pair on the site a while ago. Watched em go as I waited. He actually said, "Did you send back the jeans? Did you return both pair? Sorry I'm just trying to track down your order. I can get you a refund as soon as I can get this worked out. Roman " So we'll see. Worst case I wasted a little time replying, best case I suddenly get money refunded.
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Post by beeranddenim on Nov 10, 2015 0:48:07 GMT -6
So my very first order was a gift certificate. I had an amex gift card I had trouble using so converted it to Lawless $. I just got an email today. Order completed. LOL.
I'd like to believe they're getting existing orders out but I feel like they're just finessing the books to avoid prosecution.
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Post by tessie on Nov 10, 2015 13:28:06 GMT -6
Well it looks like this are beginning to start up again at lawless denim. I got a responds from Roman stating the Kevlar jeans I ordered where in production and he was offering a pair of free boot cuts for me for waiting. I asked for a timeline for when the kevlar would be ready so hopefully a responds. I told him the boot cut wouldn't work knowing they are probably someone else's jeans. And to think I thought this saga was over
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Post by mkeview on Nov 10, 2015 14:46:12 GMT -6
I sent 2 emails. One through the site and one through my email account. I honestly want to believe something will show up but don't fee this is legit but a stall tactic.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 10, 2015 14:54:00 GMT -6
I sent 2 emails. One through the site and one through my email account. I honestly want to believe something will show up but don't fee this is legit but a stall tactic. What email address? Mine bounced.
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Post by stinky on Nov 10, 2015 16:49:00 GMT -6
Did anyone here order women's jeans from LD and actually receive them? RA would regain a huge amount of cred from me if I received my wife's two pairs.
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Post by Old26 on Nov 10, 2015 17:01:12 GMT -6
Did anyone here order women's jeans from LD and actually receive them? RA would regain a huge amount of cred from me if I received my wife's two pairs. If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again...
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Post by ickes on Nov 10, 2015 19:25:10 GMT -6
Did anyone here order women's jeans from LD and actually receive them? RA would regain a huge amount of cred from me if I received my wife's two pairs. If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again... LOL ^^^^^
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Post by stinky on Nov 11, 2015 8:58:49 GMT -6
Did anyone here order women's jeans from LD and actually receive them? RA would regain a huge amount of cred from me if I received my wife's two pairs. If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again... I know I'm an outlier in the group, but if he started cranking out product consistently and fulfilled all of the orders that are owed to customers, I'd likely purchase again. I like the fit.
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Post by beeranddenim on Nov 11, 2015 9:38:37 GMT -6
He's going to ship out one order per week for the next 900-3000 weeks depending on how many remaining orders there are.
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Post by Old26 on Nov 11, 2015 9:46:11 GMT -6
If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again... I know I'm an outlier in the group, but if he started cranking out product consistently and fulfilled all of the orders that are owed to customers, I'd likely purchase again. I like the fit. Wow.
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Post by bentin on Nov 11, 2015 10:01:46 GMT -6
It would be hard to come up with a more succinct response.
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Post by devastitis on Nov 11, 2015 10:05:29 GMT -6
If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again... I know I'm an outlier in the group, but if he started cranking out product consistently and fulfilled all of the orders that are owed to customers, I'd likely purchase again. I like the fit. just order from IndigoGene. Manny was the one who made your orders.
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Post by stinky on Nov 11, 2015 12:17:19 GMT -6
I know I'm an outlier in the group, but if he started cranking out product consistently and fulfilled all of the orders that are owed to customers, I'd likely purchase again. I like the fit. Wow. Yeah, I know. Makes no sense, right? But I like the fit. And the details. And knowing that folks like Manny and Sal/DD made them what they are. I'll likely order from Manny or Ciano in the future, but I'm not ruling out more LD. Frankly (and I've been consistent on this), losing $50 or $75 on a denim gamble is not something that I've dwelled on . . . the thing that disappoints me is not losing the money or feeling ripped off, but rather not getting the product.
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Post by devastitis on Nov 11, 2015 12:21:19 GMT -6
Yeah, I know. Makes no sense, right? But I like the fit. And the details. And knowing that folks like Manny and Sal/DD made them what they are. I'll likely order from Manny or Ciano in the future, but I'm not ruling out more LD. Frankly (and I've been consistent on this), losing $50 or $75 on a denim gamble is not something that I've dwelled on . . . the thing that disappoints me is not losing the money or feeling ripped off, but rather not getting the product. I don't quite understand. Manny was the one who made all the orders. Why not rule out LD, and stick with IG? Is it because of the crazy prices that LD, if they make a come back (god forbid), will not be able to offer ever again?
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Post by Griffin on Nov 11, 2015 13:39:07 GMT -6
You might have felt different sinking a grand and getting air back.
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Post by wdw on Nov 11, 2015 13:45:51 GMT -6
Some seem to forget that quality apparently dropped dramatically after the start of the year. Then it became a lottery what you got - sizing, material, fit, buttons, you name it.
If it was Manny doing the good stuff, backed up by Sal in CS, they're obviously long gone, so he might be employing any old dross to rattle the next lot together. Who would take that risk yet again, just for the sake of a cheap shirt months down the line?
And never forget the lies....
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Post by oatwilly on Nov 11, 2015 14:48:47 GMT -6
Remember also that your cc company will probably just laugh at you if you use the same card to order from them again and try and open another dispute when you most likely inevitably get ripped off again
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 11, 2015 16:01:56 GMT -6
Ended up getting a pair of jeans from lawless. Went to their store and got a choice of 3 pairs they had roughly in my size range. Went with a waist of 42.5 which usually fit snug on me but break in to my true sizing. Tried them on and the rise is incredibly low. Like a measurement that shouldn't exist in 2015. To give an example they have a lower rise than my naked and famous jeans. The jeans get devoured into my butt and suffocate my junk like nothing I've ever seen before. Not necessarily their fault but I feel like they may not have had much experience working in the higher size range. All in all I'm not gonna bother returning them. It was a 40 dollar experiment. The lawless chapter is officially closed for me.
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 11, 2015 16:03:23 GMT -6
To clarify, they were a pair they substituted in to fulfill an order from January. We agreed via email after the recent relaunch and I came in to their building to pick a pair
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Post by beeranddenim on Nov 11, 2015 16:31:51 GMT -6
Did you see a bunch of stock when you went there?
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 11, 2015 19:28:46 GMT -6
Did you see a bunch of stock when you went there? Yeah. The "bunch of stock" appeared to be the fabled unshipped orders. It is also what they had me pick from for my own order, meaning it was likely at the expense of another's order. But they assured me it was someone's order they recut.
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