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Post by bozer on Oct 23, 2015 19:13:18 GMT -6
The trick will be for Gustin to show more of their flannels sewn up in the new cut. I hate it when they try to sell us on the fabric rather the whole package. This may work for denim but shirting is entirely different if its patterned Yep. I refuse to buy their shirts based on the swatch alone anymore. What looks good as a fabric can end up looking hideous as a shit. Happened to me with one of those super heavy twill shirts. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Oct 23, 2015 19:15:48 GMT -6
[/quote] What looks good as a fabric can end up looking hideous as a shit. [/quote] No argument on the shit part  |
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Post by davelewis on Oct 23, 2015 19:31:57 GMT -6
It's been nice not being tempted by Lord G. This could bring some of us back into the fold. Yep. Throw one of their flannels on this new shirt cut and they'll draw some customers in If they can throw out a nice 10oz flannel, and sew it correctly, I'd try one. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Oct 23, 2015 19:34:35 GMT -6
Yep. Throw one of their flannels on this new shirt cut and they'll draw some customers in If they can throw out a nice 10oz flannel, and sew it correctly, I'd try one. A 10 oz western flannel would have everyone creaming themselves |
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Post by davelewis on Oct 23, 2015 19:38:25 GMT -6
If they can throw out a nice 10oz flannel, and sew it correctly, I'd try one. A 10 oz western flannel would have everyone creaming themselves For sure, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for that to ever happen. |
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Post by ickes on Oct 23, 2015 20:05:29 GMT -6
A 10 oz western flannel would have everyone creaming themselves For sure, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for that to ever happen. Seriously. Gustin getting a 10 oz flannel....not likely. |
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Post by matt on Oct 23, 2015 20:17:40 GMT -6
For sure, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for that to ever happen. Seriously. Gustin getting a 10 oz flannel....not likely. if they even considered a western style? Even less likely. The only way Gustin would consider a Western design would be if JCrew declared it to be the "must have" item of 2016. Sadly, they are going to stick with the conservative base. It's what funds most of the campaigns. They don't market to the fringe. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Oct 23, 2015 20:24:39 GMT -6
Seriously. Gustin getting a 10 oz flannel....not likely. if they even considered a western style? Even less likely. The only way Gustin would consider a Western design would be if JCrew declared it to be the "must have" item of 2016. Sadly, they are going to stick with the conservative base. It's what funds most of the campaigns. They don't market to the fringe. But isn't the fringe the ones who helped prop Gustin up? If J Crew is anything to go by they seem to sell product that suits most buyers |
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Post by matt on Oct 23, 2015 20:34:03 GMT -6
And if they even considered a western style? Even less likely. The only way Gustin would consider a Western design would be if JCrew declared it to be the "must have" item of 2016. Sadly, they are going to stick with the conservative base. It's what funds most of the campaigns. They don't market to the fringe. But isn't the fringe the ones who helped prop Gustin up? If J Crew is anything to go by they seem to sell product that suits most buyers I don't think they are loyal to the fringe. They throw us a bone once in a while, but they generally just cater to the greatest population of consumers. |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 23, 2015 20:52:31 GMT -6
With most of the people losing their minds over the simple mention of a western and what a goddam travesty it would be, I would be surprised to ever see a western out of gustin. Western shirts aren't that popular, you'll notice each of the runs exclusive to ihuk get about 20 or so shirts (if that) which is well below the minimums that gustin tries to hit. A few people here would back a western, but I'd bet most of gustin's customers wouldn't, especially if they see a work shirt or a heavy fabric and don't understand the draw.
Edit: regarding the work shirts, gustin's commentary to members here indicates that they largely consider the work shirt a fringe and unpopular item, if not a failure. This is likely a lot of the reason they took so long to release a new cut at all, I'd be very surprised to see something terribly creative in their shirting offerings at any point in the future. I'd love it if they got to where they could do something like ratio and get customized options on shirts, but that's simply not their thing, and would require a huge shift in their business model.
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Post by mkeview on Oct 24, 2015 8:52:29 GMT -6
I think an 8-9oz shirt in their new cut would be a victory but I'm not expecting it. I'll most likely back one of their new cuts today. (For the sake of science at least)
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Post by Old26 on Oct 24, 2015 9:22:02 GMT -6
With most of the people losing their minds over the simple mention of a western and what a goddam travesty it would be, I would be surprised to ever see a western out of gustin. Western shirts aren't that popular, you'll notice each of the runs exclusive to ihuk get about 20 or so shirts (if that) which is well below the minimums that gustin tries to hit. A few people here would back a western, but I'd bet most of gustin's customers wouldn't, especially if they see a work shirt or a heavy fabric and don't understand the draw. Edit: regarding the work shirts, gustin's commentary to members here indicates that they largely consider the work shirt a fringe and unpopular item, if not a failure. This is likely a lot of the reason they took so long to release a new cut at all, I'd be very surprised to see something terribly creative in their shirting offerings at any point in the future. I'd love it if they got to where they could do something like ratio and get customized options on shirts, but that's simply not their thing, and would require a huge shift in their business model. Western shirts aren't that popular? Where do you live? Even here in LA, I see tons of kids wearing them now with slim jeans and boots. They are "cool", and whether they play in SF or not, they're all over here... But it also depends on how "western" you're talking. A basic, snap with subtle yokes, etc. are pretty much seen wherever I go... |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 24, 2015 9:33:20 GMT -6
With most of the people losing their minds over the simple mention of a western and what a goddam travesty it would be, I would be surprised to ever see a western out of gustin. Western shirts aren't that popular, you'll notice each of the runs exclusive to ihuk get about 20 or so shirts (if that) which is well below the minimums that gustin tries to hit. A few people here would back a western, but I'd bet most of gustin's customers wouldn't, especially if they see a work shirt or a heavy fabric and don't understand the draw. Edit: regarding the work shirts, gustin's commentary to members here indicates that they largely consider the work shirt a fringe and unpopular item, if not a failure. This is likely a lot of the reason they took so long to release a new cut at all, I'd be very surprised to see something terribly creative in their shirting offerings at any point in the future. I'd love it if they got to where they could do something like ratio and get customized options on shirts, but that's simply not their thing, and would require a huge shift in their business model. Western shirts aren't that popular? Where do you live? Even here in LA, I see tons of kids wearing them now with slim jeans and boots. They are "cool", and whether they play in SF or not, they're all over here... But it also depends on how "western" you're talking. A basic, snap with subtle yokes, etc. are pretty much seen wherever I go... Same here in Tally with the hipsters here. And with me. Ha. But I think it isn't a question of what's cool, but what the Styleforum types of the world, and the regular straight and narrow types, which I think Gustin thinks they cater to and is their main clientele, that is the issue. Those types think Westerns are "weird" or "hick" or "country." I think Gustin thinks they won't sell. But again, there's something wrong with their model if that's the problem, because they shouldn't have to buy the fabric until it's funded if that truly is their model. Which as we can surmise, it's not. They pre-buy a lot based on perceived value and then hope it sells, I would venture to guess. Which brings up a fair point about them vs. Taylor Stitch. Why do they hamstring themselves, or make it appear as such, by making a set limit that they can offer versus Taylor Stitch saying that unless something gets to 100% funded, they won't make the item, but will certainly allow for greater than 100% to be funded. That seems to be allows TS to sell more units total and make more money than Gustin's alleged models allows for. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 10:12:20 GMT -6
Western shirts aren't that popular? Where do you live? Even here in LA, I see tons of kids wearing them now with slim jeans and boots. They are "cool", and whether they play in SF or not, they're all over here... But it also depends on how "western" you're talking. A basic, snap with subtle yokes, etc. are pretty much seen wherever I go... Same here in Tally with the hipsters here. And with me. Ha. But I think it isn't a question of what's cool, but what the Styleforum types of the world, and the regular straight and narrow types, which I think Gustin thinks they cater to and is their main clientele, that is the issue. Those types think Westerns are "weird" or "hick" or "country." I think Gustin thinks they won't sell. But again, there's something wrong with their model if that's the problem, because they shouldn't have to buy the fabric until it's funded if that truly is their model. Which as we can surmise, it's not. They pre-buy a lot based on perceived value and then hope it sells, I would venture to guess. Which brings up a fair point about them vs. Taylor Stitch. Why do they hamstring themselves, or make it appear as such, by making a set limit that they can offer versus Taylor Stitch saying that unless something gets to 100% funded, they won't make the item, but will certainly allow for greater than 100% to be funded. That seems to be allows TS to sell more units total and make more money than Gustin's alleged models allows for. it all boils down to...the phrase that they've used again and again: they make what they like to wear. the G decision makers are obviously more comfortable interacting with the styleforum crowd and what they like to wear (and thus make) is in line with that. the few times they've strayed from that (mostly from our influence here or on g-comm) the products haven't sold quite as quickly. i know it irks some here as we've been with G since the beginning, but over time everyone has to come to the realization that they'll likely always be reluctant to take direct input from this crowd...and that they'll never be an all-around one stop brand for most of us. (not to mention that they do tend to struggle with quality and capacity a bit each time they increase their product offerings) |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 24, 2015 10:15:00 GMT -6
Well.. They're there, the awkward alignment of that beautiful blue plaid twill really makes me uncomfortable. Heavy black x coal is back and a very good choice if you're looking for 16oz black jeans at a great price.
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Post by devastitis on Oct 24, 2015 10:17:42 GMT -6
I like the indigoxwhite, but not so much the price. I don't think these will back quickly at all. There's just something off with the two nicer ones.
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Post by david2403 on Oct 24, 2015 10:51:37 GMT -6
Well.. They're there, the awkward alignment of that beautiful blue plaid twill really makes me uncomfortable. Heavy black x coal is back and a very good choice if you're looking for 16oz black jeans at a great price. True, the model looks like he has a white hexagon from pit to pit. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 24, 2015 20:24:45 GMT -6
I think that blue twill looks nice, personally. I'm not too put off by the alignment. Don't wanna drop the dough at the mo, though.
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Post by Old26 on Oct 26, 2015 17:00:18 GMT -6
Here's a new ad for Absolute Elyx. Note the shirt. This is a niche that they are peddling to the celebrity crowds...  |
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Post by northcoast on Oct 27, 2015 16:02:04 GMT -6
I just received my Grey Ember flannel, which is the second G flannel I have purchased. It's slightly more grey than in the pics and the pocket is aligned well enough that it disappears in the pattern. The placket is pretty straight as well. I'm starting to get why some prefer thicker flannels. This is a 4oz Japanese fabric as is my other G. What would be a decent weight for mostly indoor use that was thicker but didn't make you sweat? www.weargustin.com/store/2447 |
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Post by quick on Oct 27, 2015 16:10:33 GMT -6
I have the www.weargustin.com/store/1409It's 8oz but doesnt make me sweat indoors. I guess sweating depends on the ambient temperature of the room. |
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Post by northcoast on Oct 27, 2015 17:00:38 GMT -6
Thanks for that quick.
I was trying to ask about heavier weight flannels but did not do a very good job of it!
I have yet to pull the trigger on one of those twills.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 27, 2015 17:24:23 GMT -6
I just received my Grey Ember flannel, which is the second G flannel I have purchased. It's slightly more grey than in the pics and the pocket is aligned well enough that it disappears in the pattern. The placket is pretty straight as well. I'm starting to get why some prefer thicker flannels. This is a 4oz Japanese fabric as is my other G. What would be a decent weight for mostly indoor use that was thicker but didn't make you sweat? www.weargustin.com/store/2447The Oxfords are heavier, feel substantial, and they're reasonably priced if you like the fit. I have the "wrong" heavyweight twill that is listed in the iron heart threads right now, and for the weight the heavy twills really don't get uncomfortable indoors, at least I've never had a sweating problem with them. If you're looking for something that isn't too warm, you may want to avoid the brushed twills and flannels. I'm hoping the Cone Chambrays will return in the new 2 pocket design, as those breathe very well for indoor use. If I were you I'd give one of those standard oxfords a shot to see how you like the heavier weight, but keep in mind oxford cloth is a pretty dense weave so will likely be warmer than a twill or chambray of the same weight. You may just save yourself some time and effort and just pick up the Iron Heart heavy chambray on Rakuten. |
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Post by northcoast on Oct 27, 2015 19:25:53 GMT -6
Thanks.
I have the standard oxford in blue and love the weight. I'm waiting for the red to be offered again.
I have the Jaquard chambray and it breathes incredibly well. I love that shirt.
That IH shirt is nice but I think I'm out of all IH purchases as Im a XXLT in Gustin, XLT in JCRW and 46 in TStitch.
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Post by Griffin on Oct 28, 2015 2:56:30 GMT -6
I feel the grey ember is ok in the summer and this one is ok in the winter: (5oz flanell) www.weargustin.com/store/1339It is warm and cosy wich makes me think it might be too cosy in the summer? |
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