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Post by brentkuz on Jan 21, 2015 10:44:55 GMT -6
I love both the cement and indigo but between price, delivery date and button down collar I'm staying well away.
These would have been cool Christmas gifts or at least September/October delivery so you can get use out of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 11:20:14 GMT -6
That are so many flannel, jeans, oxfords and jackets one person can own..... (except for shopaholic according to my advisor)
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 21, 2015 11:31:21 GMT -6
Looking like the latest (and my favorite I might add) flannels are not doing too well. It may be the seasonal aspect, but I think the price and delivery times might be finally playing here? Speaking just for myself here, I find Gustin's standard shirt design to be a non-starter for the heavier flannels, twills, chambrays, etc. In my view, those fabrics just look out of place when given the same treatment as poplin and oxford. I'd foresee similar challenges if trying to sell people on a 3-oz seersucker workshirt. Price is definitely a factor as well. Generally speaking, Gustin's shirts don't stand out to me as the same kind of value as their jeans. There are exceptions here and there, but for the most part I don't have any trouble finding shirts that are just as interesting to me, fit just as well or better, and are priced about the same or cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 11:40:48 GMT -6
Looking like the latest (and my favorite I might add) flannels are not doing too well. It may be the seasonal aspect, but I think the price and delivery times might be finally playing here? Speaking just for myself here, I find Gustin's standard shirt design to be a non-starter for the heavier flannels, twills, chambrays, etc. In my view, those fabrics just look out of place when given the same treatment as poplin and oxford......<snip> This x38.746
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Post by Old26 on Jan 21, 2015 11:48:47 GMT -6
Looking like the latest (and my favorite I might add) flannels are not doing too well. It may be the seasonal aspect, but I think the price and delivery times might be finally playing here? Speaking just for myself here, I find Gustin's standard shirt design to be a non-starter for the heavier flannels, twills, chambrays, etc. In my view, those fabrics just look out of place when given the same treatment as poplin and oxford. I'd foresee similar challenges if trying to sell people on a 3-oz seersucker workshirt. Price is definitely a factor as well. Generally speaking, Gustin's shirts don't stand out to me as the same kind of value as their jeans. There are exceptions here and there, but for the most part I don't have any trouble finding shirts that are just as interesting to me, fit just as well or better, and are priced about the same or cheaper. To me, not being able to even wear a Gustin shirt of any type, the Work Shirt lineup was the one with most potential to be a "bargain", per se. But you're right - the cut and insisting of putting button-down collars on everything baffles me. I guess it's a lot fo SF fashion influence and my tastes run more redneck, or fashionable redneck.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 21, 2015 11:59:11 GMT -6
I love both the cement and indigo but between price, delivery date and button down collar I'm staying well away. These would have been cool Christmas gifts or at least September/October delivery so you can get use out of them. The seasonality thing doesn't bother me much, honestly. If I'm spending $75-125 or more on a shirt, I'm expecting to get many years of wear out of it. If I see something I really like, I'm not going to pass on it because I'm worried about "missing" a season's worth of wear. Especially for shirts! How often would I wear my favorite 5-oz flannel over the course of one season? Once every couple weeks? Every ten days, maybe? So I'm looking at probably ten wears max in a single season. Passing on a shirt because I might miss out on ten days of use - compared to missing out on the dozens upon dozens of wears that I'll get out of that shirt over its lifespan? That strikes me as somewhat penny wise and pound foolish. If I was on the fence with a shirt and didn't see it as an investment in something I planned to wear for years to come, then sure I could see the seasonal issue being a deciding factor. But, really, if it's come to that then I've probably already made my decision anyway.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 21, 2015 12:04:19 GMT -6
I generally stay in the same ballpark, fashion-wise, but I don't see clothing sans jackets or footwear as years of wear items. I've bought things, and never even worn them, only to give to Good Will or Disabled American Vets, etc. And body changes also come into play. I'm not generally going to spend $120 on say a flannel shirt when I might get 10 wears a year and end up heavier/lighter or otherwise not interested in it any longer. Hell, even my hair going grey has changed the colors of shirts/jackets I buy. So for me, the lower priced tops are a better deal as they rotate the most in my wardrobe...
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 21, 2015 12:33:10 GMT -6
I generally stay in the same ballpark, fashion-wise, but I don't see clothing sans jackets or footwear as years of wear items. I've bought things, and never even worn them, only to give to Good Will or Disabled American Vets, etc. And body changes also come into play. I'm not generally going to spend $120 on say a flannel shirt when I might get 10 wears a year and end up heavier/lighter or otherwise not interested in it any longer. Hell, even my hair going grey has changed the colors of shirts/jackets I buy. So for me, the lower priced tops are a better deal as they rotate the most in my wardrobe... Agreed. I probably should have stressed my personal link between the cost of the shirt and the criteria I apply to the purchasing decision. For me: $100+ shirt = investment. I would not apply the same standard to the vast majority of my shirts that see regular day-to-day wear; those cost me much closer to $50 (oftentimes less) rather than $100 and up. My closet is a heavily skewed mix of probably 75% "cheap" shirts that mostly get rotated out or worn out within three to five years and 25% "expensive" shirts that I've had since my twenties and/or plan to keep on wearing into my forties. Of course there are some exceptions; I have a few shirts that cost me thirty, forty bucks and have held up magnificently and I still love them, and there have been a few ill-advised splurges over the years that I just didn't end up liking as much as I thought I would. C'est la vie! Vive la difference! And many other French words as well. Wow, hello tangent. The point I wanted to make was not that Gustin's shirts in general, or specifically the two gingham flannels that dropped yesterday, should be seen as investment pieces and therefore worth the money. That's not for me to decide for anyone besides myself. My point was that, if I did really fancy one of those flannels (and I liked Gustin's button-down template, and I thought the price was fair, and and and) then I would not be concerned about seasonality because a $107 shirt (plus shipping) is by my personal definition a shirt that I intend to own and wear for a good long time. So the prospect of missing one season of wear is trivial; if I've convinced myself that a shirt is worth dropping that kind of coin then I'm looking at the ROI over the long haul.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 21, 2015 13:10:15 GMT -6
To me, not being able to even wear a Gustin shirt of any type, the Work Shirt lineup was the one with most potential to be a "bargain", per se. But you're right - the cut and insisting of putting button-down collars on everything baffles me. I guess it's a lot fo SF fashion influence and my tastes run more redneck, or fashionable redneck. From the outside, it seems like such a small change (that should actually reduce the cost) that the lack of an option without a button down collar (other than the workshirt, which has it's own perceived "issues") has gotten past being frustrating to seeming like indignance, but maybe there's more to it than I know... I would think it'd be a no brainer to do as they're moving into heavier fabrics. Regarding their timing, I've hear that weather patterns are almost opposite of the rest of the country (where pronounced coldness is more around summer months, and it's very temperate the rest of the year), so they might not be as out of season as it looks, from here. At the same time, there should be understanding that a very small portion of their clothing lands in San Francisco, but if they're looking towards their colder times as March into July, their product launch pattern would actually make sense. I've never been to SF, so I might have been lied to, but I wanted to throw that out there since I had heard it from someone living there.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 21, 2015 13:15:41 GMT -6
Also, being in Colorado, there is probably a month or so that my wardrobe is going to be restricted, the rule around here is to be layered unless you're in a heat wave, so that never makes a difference in my planning, except when I'm getting something that has a very specific time of year it can be worn, such as an unlined waxed jacket. To be honest, though, waxed isn't really all that beneficial with how the weather works in Colorado, and is almost always just going to be a layer in some other scheme. Still looks awesome, though, and if something shows up that I can't live without, time of year isn't going to make a difference in whether I order it.
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Post by bentin on Jan 21, 2015 13:22:08 GMT -6
I vehemently abhor button down collars on dress shirts, but have come around to liking them on some casual shirts. Since nothing G has dropped would be something I'd wear to work, I don't get the disdain for button down collars. It's not like heavy materials don't work with button down collars, Taylor Stitch pulls it off great with 9oz: taylorstitch.com/products/sand-work-chambray-jackNow about that third button...
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Post by marauder on Jan 22, 2015 11:26:06 GMT -6
Italy pure indigo silk, Postal Herringbone, Brown and Red Magenta rustic twills just dropped.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 11:36:05 GMT -6
Italy pure indigo silk, Postal Herringbone, Brown and Red Magenta rustic twills just dropped. Wait a minute..why does the indigo silk say Italy, but the fabric is from Japan?
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Post by Old26 on Jan 22, 2015 11:37:05 GMT -6
Italy pure indigo silk, Postal Herringbone, Brown and Red Magenta rustic twills just dropped. Wait a minute..why does the indigo silk say Italy, but the fabric is from Japan? Copy & Paste™
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Post by pevil on Jan 22, 2015 11:40:02 GMT -6
They forgot to add the word "buttery" somewhere in the description as well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 11:44:26 GMT -6
italian silk....made with the finest japanese butter often only found in boutiques for $250
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 11:45:52 GMT -6
nice to see the postal h.bone sewn up into some pants. i think that fabric makes a better looking shirt. i think as far as h.bone pants go, the greyxblack herringbone claims the top spot.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 22, 2015 11:55:07 GMT -6
Yeah, shirt is fab, not a big fan of it on pants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 12:05:42 GMT -6
italian silk....made with the finest japanese butter often only found in boutiques for $250 NICE JOB, David. Maybe you should ping Roman. LD definitely can uses some help of its fabric descriptions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 12:07:39 GMT -6
nice to see the postal h.bone sewn up into some pants. i think that fabric makes a better looking shirt. i think as far as h.bone pants go, the greyxblack herringbone claims the top spot. Agree. I uses the same fabric for my LD chino and I think it is better for the tops than bottoms. I tried to have a fit picture of that but was thinking about what top I should wear. A little bit more tricky.
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Post by ickes on Jan 22, 2015 12:47:08 GMT -6
Gustin is killing it with thier releases this year. The two rustic twill shirts dropped today are awesome. I'm backing the Brown Black twill. I have the Brown Black flannel and I love it but I've outgrown it thanks to the Arnold program. The twill fabrics are probably my favorites followed by the flannels.
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Post by Hobbs on Jan 22, 2015 12:52:59 GMT -6
I'm dying for them to release those greyxblack Herringbones again. I saw the word Herringbone today and got my hopes up. nice to see the postal h.bone sewn up into some pants. i think that fabric makes a better looking shirt. i think as far as h.bone pants go, the greyxblack herringbone claims the top spot.
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 22, 2015 13:13:56 GMT -6
Still shirting doesn't do anything for me fabric is cool but I donno just something about the shirts I guess.
The denim however is awesome. Happy I looked late or I would have broken my no spending as I would have backed the indigo silks. The postal herringbones look nice too.
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 22, 2015 13:14:32 GMT -6
And I hate buttery in every description make md angry Haha
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Post by Canucklehead on Jan 22, 2015 13:33:40 GMT -6
I prefer a little more subtle/tighter herringbone pattern for pants. They almost look like pajama-bottoms or something. I like the shirt patterns and fabrics, but I'll hold off until I try out some Lawless.
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