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Post by ickes on Dec 21, 2016 15:26:49 GMT -6
Would be all over these new 14oz OD's if they weren't made in the 777 plumber's cut. They are making it in the 634 and 666 cut as well. |
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Post by scooter on Dec 21, 2016 15:30:21 GMT -6
They have the 21oz overdye in several cuts already scooter if you weren't aware, but I'm pretty sure you were?? I am aware. I would've nabbed the 21oz 666od, already. But, it seems the overdye process did a number on the thighs. Specs are quite tight. It's a slim cut, to begin with. I've been wanting to try the 777 cut, and the 21oz od is the only IH denim I'm interested in, at the moment. |
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Post by ickes on Dec 21, 2016 16:28:00 GMT -6
They have the 21oz overdye in several cuts already scooter if you weren't aware, but I'm pretty sure you were?? I am aware. I would've nabbed the 21oz 666od, already. But, it seems the overdye process did a number on the thighs. Specs are quite tight. It's a slim cut, to begin with. I've been wanting to try the 777 cut, and the 21oz od is the only IH denim I'm interested in, at the moment. It did shrink up the 666 cut quite a bit, I noticed that too. The overdye process shrinks the fabric right up. |
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Post by scooter on Dec 21, 2016 16:38:48 GMT -6
I am aware. I would've nabbed the 21oz 666od, already. But, it seems the overdye process did a number on the thighs. Specs are quite tight. It's a slim cut, to begin with. I've been wanting to try the 777 cut, and the 21oz od is the only IH denim I'm interested in, at the moment. It did shrink up the 666 cut quite a bit, I noticed that too. The overdye process shrinks the fabric right up. We'll, it certainly did on the current run, at least. A 12.1" thigh for tagged 36 is awful. My 666-19L have a 12.6" thigh, and I wouldn't want them any less. Being a slim straight cut, if you take another inch out of the thigh circumference, I would think they'd look a bit goofy. If the 666s-21od make the specials, I may give them go. I'll just request the largest thigh possible. I won't pay full price to play the guinea pig, though. Edit: If they don't hit the specials, my hope is they adjust the cut of the 666, to accommodate the extra shrink. |
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Post by odin on Dec 23, 2016 23:12:39 GMT -6
Just a heads up guys, iron heart co.
will stop sales on rakuten before April 2017. Only 3 more month. Just got email
From rodeo bros with my latest purchase.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 23, 2016 23:45:17 GMT -6
Just a heads up guys, iron heart co. will stop sales on rakuten before April 2017. Only 3 more month. Just got email From rodeo bros with my latest purchase. Hope that works well for them, I'm not a big purchaser anyway but it means I've likely made my last purchase. that prices me straight out of interested. |
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Post by disheveled on Dec 23, 2016 23:52:22 GMT -6
Just a heads up guys, iron heart co. will stop sales on rakuten before April 2017. Only 3 more month. Just got email From rodeo bros with my latest purchase. Thanks for the heads up. We knew it was (could be) coming, but it definitely sucks balls |
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Post by disheveled on Dec 24, 2016 0:48:43 GMT -6
The 163 is a great shirt, a nice departure from both the western and work cut. The wide collar gives it an old school vibe. Over-sized MOP buttons and the fabric's sheen/drape give just enough pop. The 80/20 wool poly blend is scratchy--not terrible, but bare skin 'feels' it. Really happy to have the Olive and Grey in my stable. Thanks for the good word ickes |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Dec 24, 2016 1:06:13 GMT -6
Just a heads up guys, iron heart co. will stop sales on rakuten before April 2017. Only 3 more month. Just got email From rodeo bros with my latest purchase. And I will now probably not purchase another IH item. My ihsh-07 is cool, but its not worth double other shirts. |
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Post by unnamed on Dec 24, 2016 2:29:27 GMT -6
Just a heads up guys, iron heart co. will stop sales on rakuten before April 2017. Only 3 more month. Just got email From rodeo bros with my latest purchase. That's surprising considering that such a move would likely also alienate many Japanese customers. At least we will still have our bro's main site.  |
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Post by disheveled on Dec 24, 2016 8:57:53 GMT -6
163 Olive   |
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Post by odin on Dec 24, 2016 9:56:04 GMT -6
Here is the response from RB
"I am Mihara of RODEO BROS.
Thank you for the payment.
Your payment has been confirmed.
I am shipping it today.
After shipping I will send you the tracking number and other details.
Indeed we have news,
According to the management policy of Iron Heart Co., Ltd.,
Iron Heart's products finishes the sale on the website in the end of March, 2017.
We cannot sell it in Rakuten after April, 2017.
Please order Iron Heart's products as soon as possible.
I'll be right with you.
Sincerely,
Mihara"
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Post by davelewis on Dec 24, 2016 11:00:34 GMT -6
Really hate to see this happen. You can spin it any which way you want, but In my view it comes down to greed, as they just must hate seeing stuff sold out of Japan at a more appropriate price, that doesn't travel through the UK. I have no doubt that a simple boycotting of IH purchases would reverse this in short order, but is more fantasy than reality. I'm in.
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2016 14:20:48 GMT -6
Really hate to see this happen. You can spin it any which way you want, but In my view it comes down to greed, as they just must hate seeing stuff sold out of Japan at a more appropriate price, that doesn't travel through the UK. I have no doubt that a simple boycotting of IH purchases would reverse this in short order, but is more fantasy than reality. I'm in. I like my ihsh-130 but not enough to pay $100 over Japanese prices. IH just may be shooting themselves in the foot by trying to control prices. |
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Post by davelewis on Dec 24, 2016 14:37:12 GMT -6
Really hate to see this happen. You can spin it any which way you want, but In my view it comes down to greed, as they just must hate seeing stuff sold out of Japan at a more appropriate price, that doesn't travel through the UK. I have no doubt that a simple boycotting of IH purchases would reverse this in short order, but is more fantasy than reality. I'm in. I like my ihsh-130 but not enough to pay $100 over Japanese prices. IH just may be shooting themselves in the foot by trying to control prices. It doesn't make sense to me, as I think the people that purchase from the UK, will continue to do so, as there is an almost cult like following, but I'm not sure that the folks who buy from Japan at a more reasonable price will automatically start to now purchase from the UK, at least I won't be. To me it seems like it will only hurt sales from the Japanese vendors, and I would think they would not be pleased. |
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Post by odin on Dec 24, 2016 15:37:30 GMT -6
Really hate to see this happen. You can spin it any which way you want, but In my view it comes down to greed, as they just must hate seeing stuff sold out of Japan at a more appropriate price, that doesn't travel through the UK. I have no doubt that a simple boycotting of IH purchases would reverse this in short order, but is more fantasy than reality. I'm in. So far I have purchased 5 shirts and 2 jeans of Iron Heart brand using Rakuten. It cost me around $135 per shirt and $195 for a single jeans (634S ) with coupons and points including shipping. Thought it was expensive purchases. Defiantly I will not pay IHUK, SelfEdge prices. How come $200 jeans become $325 more than 50% markup?. This is ridiculous. Hell with IH product, there are so many companies on Rakuten (ONI, Samuri, The Strike Gold, Momotaro, Full Count you name it - with reasonable prices, similar quality and fits). |
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Post by bentin on Dec 24, 2016 16:51:15 GMT -6
Hello dead horse, how are you?
Just reminding folks that IHUK charges US consumers 20% UK VAT, which they get fully refunded. That's part of the price premium.
I can only assume that since Self Edge buys through them, they keep their prices fixed to IHUK.
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Post by odin on Dec 24, 2016 17:05:04 GMT -6
Hello dead horse, how are you? Just reminding folks that IHUK charges US consumers 20% UK VAT, which they get fully refunded. That's part of the price premium. I can only assume that since Self Edge buys through them, they keep their prices fixed to IHUK. "iron heart hater - someone has to do it " - love it!!! Can I joint you with this?  |
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Post by bentin on Dec 24, 2016 18:15:11 GMT -6
Hello dead horse, how are you? Just reminding folks that IHUK charges US consumers 20% UK VAT, which they get fully refunded. That's part of the price premium. I can only assume that since Self Edge buys through them, they keep their prices fixed to IHUK. "iron heart hater - someone has to do it " - love it!!! Can I joint you with this? Of course, but there's a 20% surcharge on your hatred payable to me. |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on Dec 24, 2016 18:23:32 GMT -6
Hello dead horse, how are you? Just reminding folks that IHUK charges US consumers 20% UK VAT, which they get fully refunded. That's part of the price premium. I can only assume that since Self Edge buys through them, they keep their prices fixed to IHUK. Greed. Plain and simple. |
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Post by bentin on Dec 24, 2016 18:41:08 GMT -6
An XL amount, packed into a L shirt.
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 24, 2016 19:13:28 GMT -6
Hello dead horse, how are you? Just reminding folks that IHUK charges US consumers 20% UK VAT, which they get fully refunded. That's part of the price premium. I can only assume that since Self Edge buys through them, they keep their prices fixed to IHUK. Greed. Plain and simple. Buying from Rakuten could be seen as a devaluing of the brand, but then again, it could be retailers making a stink about being undercut the way that Denimio has allegedly been doing. I don't know who IH's demographic is but there can't be too many guys out there with pockets deep enough to shell out $300+ for a flannel shirt on a regular basis. That's a freaking car payment. |
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Post by odin on Dec 24, 2016 19:32:55 GMT -6
Buying from Rakuten could be seen as a devaluing of the brand, but then again, it could be retailers making a stink about being undercut the way that Denimio has allegedly been doing. I don't know who IH's demographic is but there can't be too many guys out there with pockets deep enough to shell out $300+ for a flannel shirt on a regular basis. That's a freaking car payment. You are correct, and not ps car, a good car |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 19:40:05 GMT -6
I "called" it a year ago... I'm fairly sure shops like Rodeo Bros are in violation of some agreement, by selling to people outside of the Japanese market. Giles is THE SINGLE POINT for sales outside of Japan/Asia... Every other shop is a sub of IHUK, meaning they all order through him. That's how it was always supposed to have been, and most here know that. Luckily, I still have co-workers and friends in Japan to proxy me.
Even Mister Freedom has roped in many of the rogue retailers on Rakuten.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 26, 2016 11:51:51 GMT -6
I "called" it a year ago... I'm fairly sure shops like Rodeo Bros are in violation of some agreement, by selling to people outside of the Japanese market. Giles is THE SINGLE POINT for sales outside of Japan/Asia... Every other shop is a sub of IHUK, meaning they all order through him. That's how it was always supposed to have been, and most here know that. Luckily, I still have co-workers and friends in Japan to proxy me. Even Mister Freedom has roped in many of the rogue retailers on Rakuten. The only problem with this logic is that these retailers are selling at full retail for the region they're in, so they're undercutting nothing. Is IHJP going to stop selling to companies that deliver to US customers as a proxy? The risk is absorbed entirely by the consumer, but the pricing model opens up a reseller market for those that do order from Japan direct, as they can then resell at a decent markup while still selling for less than the western sales partners. The benefit I would see is if ensuring higher stock levels allows them to lower prices, but half of the markup being paid at IHUK or Selfedge appears to be U.K. VAT, which is problematic as a global consumer. As I've said before, I fully support them doing what they think is best for their business, but I do wonder how many of the loyalists that buy on rakuten and pretend they buy on IHUK will stick around when they're paying nearly twice what they used to. Surely there will be some. This strategy absolutely prices people like me out of buying their product, though. |
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