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Post by DigDug on May 16, 2016 8:59:19 GMT -6
Yeah, two of my button stitching have failed.
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Post by DigDug on May 17, 2016 11:48:53 GMT -6
Soaked mine yesterday (20 min. cool water.
Got at least an inch of shrink in the inseam.
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Post by bentin on May 17, 2016 11:52:27 GMT -6
Little scared of that myself. Asked for a 34" post shrink inseam and I'm pretty sure that unwashed it's already closer to 33" or 33.5". These may go through life without a soak/wash.
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Post by nate001 on May 17, 2016 12:08:09 GMT -6
Soaked mine yesterday (20 min. cool water. Got at least an inch of shrink in the inseam. Glad I ordered a 37" inseam! Still waiting tho... |
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Post by northcoast on May 17, 2016 12:25:27 GMT -6
Little scared of that myself. Asked for a 34" post shrink inseam and I'm pretty sure that unwashed it's already closer to 33" or 33.5". These may go through life without a soak/wash. Yeah, I remain confused on that order point. Does CF attempt to add extra inches, depending on the material, so that post shrink the length matches your provided "actual" inseam? |
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Post by bentin on May 17, 2016 12:38:03 GMT -6
Little scared of that myself. Asked for a 34" post shrink inseam and I'm pretty sure that unwashed it's already closer to 33" or 33.5". These may go through life without a soak/wash. Yeah, I remain confused on that order point. Does CF attempt to add extra inches, depending on the material, so that post shrink the length matches your provided "actual" inseam? That was my understanding, and to be fair, I haven't measured mine, so they might just not have relaxed and seem a little short. But I need a 33" inseam and asked for a 34" post soak, which I would have expected would be around 35" and I currently wear them uncuffed and the length is just about perfect. |
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Post by northcoast on May 17, 2016 12:57:53 GMT -6
doh!
ok, well I guess I'll cross my fingers then.
I just put 33 in which is my actual inseam.
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Post by DigDug on May 17, 2016 20:21:49 GMT -6
So I've got about a week of wear and one soak. Wearing them again tonight.
I kind of like the way they fit and think these will become a nice pair of jeans for me.
Still wish I had that 1 inch of shrink back in the length. I had ordered a 33" inseam but only recieved a 31".
But for the price and the rest of the build, I'm happy.
I'd like to see something cheep like a TShirt for our next project.
Maybe a Natural Indigo T with indigo flower graphic.
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Post by DigDug on May 17, 2016 20:36:36 GMT -6
And I got a quite bit of leg twist.
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Post by nate001 on May 18, 2016 7:53:31 GMT -6
And I got a quite bit of leg twist. Did you get the leg twist after the soak? Also, flat felled or taped seams? |
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Post by Winterland on May 18, 2016 9:14:36 GMT -6
And I got a quite bit of leg twist. Did you get the leg twist after the soak? Also, flat felled or taped seams? Leg twist seems to be par for the course for selvedge denim. Both pair of my Iron Hearts have done it the most. |
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Post by DigDug on May 18, 2016 10:40:54 GMT -6
And I got a quite bit of leg twist. Did you get the leg twist after the soak? Also, flat felled or taped seams? After the soak. Taped seams |
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Post by mkeview on May 18, 2016 10:51:44 GMT -6
I have slight leg twist now with my 23s with taped seams. I also had 1 in less for the inseam on both the 20 and 23oz.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 7:56:14 GMT -6
cianofarmer what's the status of these? It looks like about 7 have shipped. 17 ordered.
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Post by nate001 on May 25, 2016 9:21:54 GMT -6
Is there a relationship between denim weight and the amount of twist, or is it just a random thing? I only have two pairs of selvedge denim (heresy, I know), that are 13 and 15 oz and haven't noticed any twist.
Also, I wonder if taped seams influences twist at all. The taping may shrink differently than the attached denim, contributing to twist? Just a theory...
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Post by bentin on May 25, 2016 9:37:23 GMT -6
Is there a relationship between denim weight and the amount of twist, or is it just a random thing? I only have two pairs of selvedge denim (heresy, I know), that are 13 and 15 oz and haven't noticed any twist. Also, I wonder if taped seams influences twist at all. The taping may shrink differently than the attached denim, contributing to twist? Just a theory... Loose weaves twist more. Unsanforized generally twists more, and sanfo'd generally doesn't twist at all. Right hand twists clockwise looking down, LHT counter and broken twill shouldn't twist. Weight seems to have less effect than how loose the weave is. Edited to change one unsanforized to sanforized. Oops |
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Post by nate001 on May 25, 2016 9:56:25 GMT -6
Is there a relationship between denim weight and the amount of twist, or is it just a random thing? I only have two pairs of selvedge denim (heresy, I know), that are 13 and 15 oz and haven't noticed any twist. Also, I wonder if taped seams influences twist at all. The taping may shrink differently than the attached denim, contributing to twist? Just a theory... Loose weaves twist more. Unsanforized generally twists more, and unsanfo'd generally doesn't twist at all. Right hand twists clockwise looking down, LHT counter and broken twill shouldn't twist. Weight seems to have less effect than how loose the weave is. Wha... |
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Post by bentin on May 25, 2016 10:01:30 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 10:11:20 GMT -6
Is there a relationship between denim weight and the amount of twist, or is it just a random thing? I only have two pairs of selvedge denim (heresy, I know), that are 13 and 15 oz and haven't noticed any twist. Also, I wonder if taped seams influences twist at all. The taping may shrink differently than the attached denim, contributing to twist? Just a theory... Loose weaves twist more. Unsanforized generally twists more, and unsanfo'd generally doesn't twist at all. Right hand twists clockwise looking down, LHT counter and broken twill shouldn't twist. Weight seems to have less effect than how loose the weave is. Agree that i get more twist with loose weave denim, and unsanforized more than Sanforized (though bentin you mention unsanforized back to back in your post) |
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Post by nate001 on May 25, 2016 10:17:23 GMT -6
No, I was just confused by your post: "Unsanforized generally twists more, and unsanfo'd generally doesn't twist at all. " Maybe I misread it, but it seems like you're saying unsanforized does and doesn't twist. Getting back to topic. The denim for these CF jeans is is sanforized, right? But folks are seeing twist? I'm confused. |
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Post by bentin on May 25, 2016 10:19:16 GMT -6
Hehe, what a rube. Yeah, second should be sanforized, which twists less or not at all. My Gustin Okayama Standards have been hot washed violently to get good shrinkage and have absolutely no twist. My Oni have only had the initial rinse and have a ton of twist.
The Ciano denim is RHT and sanforized, and mine only have a few wears and no soaks with no noticeable twist. But they seem pretty loosely woven, so a hot wash and / or a dryer run would likely introduce some twist.
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Post by goon on May 25, 2016 16:33:38 GMT -6
Shipping notice, really excited. Headed to Europe on the 8th so hopefully I sized right, will post some Euro Pics.
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Post by cianofarmer on May 26, 2016 20:19:33 GMT -6
sorry for not being on the board for a awhile.. Mike has been out for the last 2 months with family issues..his father is now doing well..i will keep you all updated..Mike is really upset that he can not get in the shop sewing...but i told him he is good and everyone will understand.... so just to give an update on the CO-Lab we are tearing apart the the fly and waistband on all the 20 oz because the buttonholes are coming apart..so we have to resew and redo all the 20 oz pairs... we are hand sewing where needed and replacing the whole thing if needed... so from 8/17 t0 17/17 i am so sorry for not getting back to everyone sooner...the balance will be shipped by next week for the 20oz after we tear each one apart and replace the front fly... if you have issues with the button holes now..send them back and we will repair them free of charge... for some reason the REECE 101 BUTTON HOLE MACHINE..is not catching the corse weave...so we had to adjust the machine to make it work.. i have been told the Germany machines which the Modern JPN denim company use handle this issue..well...nice to know now... as for the black 16oz..we got in the replacement..it is coming in at 15.2 oz..[ see attached pictures]..still a great black on black..... if you ordered the black i will offer a discount on your next order to make up for the issue...i will enclose a note with the order.... 
so please call us..DO NOT EMAIL US...if you need any issues answered..i need to take care of the current customers... we are getting emails for alot of custom work and the amount emails that come in are overwhelming...on custom issue question .so please call me so i can get your orders and issues in check... 281-202-1078 so we are one man down..but still going and finding other options to resolve our issues as a small company. CHEERS Ciano |
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Post by benjaminpersitz on May 27, 2016 15:05:45 GMT -6
sorry for not being on the board for a awhile.. Mike has been out for the last 2 months with family issues..his father is now doing well..i will keep you all updated..Mike is really upset that he can not get in the shop sewing...but i told him he is good and everyone will understand.... so just to give an update on the CO-Lab we are tearing apart the the fly and waistband on all the 20 oz because the buttonholes are coming apart..so we have to resew and redo all the 20 oz pairs... we are hand sewing where needed and replacing the whole thing if needed... so from 8/17 t0 17/17 i am so sorry for not getting back to everyone sooner...the balance will be shipped by next week for the 20oz after we tear each one apart and replace the front fly... if you have issues with the button holes now..send them back and we will repair them free of charge... for some reason the REECE 101 BUTTON HOLE MACHINE..is not catching the corse weave...so we had to adjust the machine to make it work.. i have been told the Germany machines which the Modern JPN denim company use handle this issue..well...nice to know now... as for the black 16oz..we got in the replacement..it is coming in at 15.2 oz..[ see attached pictures]..still a great black on black..... if you ordered the black i will offer a discount on your next order to make up for the issue...i will enclose a note with the order....
so please call us..DO NOT EMAIL US...if you need any issues answered..i need to take care of the current customers... we are getting emails for alot of custom work and the amount emails that come in are overwhelming...on custom issue question .so please call me so i can get your orders and issues in check... 281-202-1078 so we are one man down..but still going and finding other options to resolve our issues as a small company. CHEERS Ciano Had the same issue on my secrets. Definitely a machine issue as it happened twice. That said I have them back now with the new fly and it is MUCH more solid. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 19:57:25 GMT -6
Shipping notice today. My first Ciano jeans.
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