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Post by yinzer on Apr 10, 2017 17:32:31 GMT -6
I did get a brush. A mid tier one if my research is correct. Also got some porarso (not sure if that's spelled correctly) cream that has shea butter and is scented with sandalwood. Hope it works out. Didn't really plan on doing across the grain or against the grain passes but who knows. I have a Rooney badger brush which gets the job done. Never saw the point in buying an expensive silver tip badger brush let alone collect them Yeah mine was like 20 some bucks. Made by Simpson. I don't know if I see myself getting into the hobby of shaving like I do denim so I'm not buying much else for awhile now. Lucky tiger seems like a nice after shave though with no alcohol in it, may have to add that.
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Post by gaseousclay on Apr 10, 2017 19:55:06 GMT -6
I have a Rooney badger brush which gets the job done. Never saw the point in buying an expensive silver tip badger brush let alone collect them Yeah mine was like 20 some bucks. Made by Simpson. I don't know if I see myself getting into the hobby of shaving like I do denim so I'm not buying much else for awhile now. Lucky tiger seems like a nice after shave though with no alcohol in it, may have to add that. I think DE shaving is a good thing to at least try out, especially if you're into well made things. It was for this reason that I originally became interested in it. I have vintage Gillete razors that are 70-80 yrs old that are pristine. My oldest Gillete is an open comb DE razor from the early 1920's. It's easy to get sucked into the collector side of things, kinda like denim, but once you find what works for you the novelty wears off.
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Post by hopsbreath on Apr 11, 2017 0:39:06 GMT -6
You should have no worries. easy to use. Personally I don't use a cup/bowl/mug to make the lather. Simply lather it on your face with the brush. I did get a brush. A mid tier one if my research is correct. Also got some porarso (not sure if that's spelled correctly) cream that has shea butter and is scented with sandalwood. Hope it works out. Didn't really plan on doing across the grain or against the grain passes but who knows. I have the exact same shaving cream. Really great stuff, highly recommended.
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Post by gaseousclay on Apr 19, 2017 9:09:04 GMT -6
yinzeryou get to try your new DE setup yet?
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Post by yinzer on Apr 19, 2017 9:12:59 GMT -6
yinzeryou get to try your new DE setup yet? Yes I did. It's definitely a more enjoyable shave and works better. Just need to get better at it now. Just need to figure out which aftershave I like. I went with Lucky Tiger, should be in soon. I am going to get a shorter and heavier handle though to swap out on the Edwin for more control and a better grip. West coast shaving has all kinds of handles etc as I dial everything in.
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Post by bentin on Apr 19, 2017 9:18:59 GMT -6
What are you trying to accomplish with an aftershave? I initially used Trumpers Skin Food, switched to their more traditional alcohol based one and now just use an SPF 15 Kiehls facial lotion.
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Post by gaseousclay on Apr 19, 2017 11:02:54 GMT -6
yinzer you get to try your new DE setup yet? Yes I did. It's definitely a more enjoyable shave and works better. Just need to get better at it now. Just need to figure out which aftershave I like. I went with Lucky Tiger, should be in soon. I am going to get a shorter and heavier handle though to swap out on the Edwin for more control and a better grip. West coast shaving has all kinds of handles etc as I dial everything in. the key is to go slow until you're confident enough not to knick yourself in the jugular. I've cut myself plenty of times when I was in a hurry, so I've used the disposables for that. the other thing that can help you get a decent shave is the type of soap/cream you use. I've tried many different varieties but oddly enough, I found some of the cheaper soaps to work better for me. I really like Palmolive shavesticks because of the slickness they provide. I'd basically take a shavestick, shred it down into a bowl with a cheese grater and lather up with my brush. easily the slickest of all the soaps i've tried. I've tried the more expensive stuff like Tabac and Mitchell's Wool Fat with little success.
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Post by bentin on Apr 19, 2017 11:22:15 GMT -6
Yep, cheese grater into a bowl is my favorite way to make a shave bar work the best. Also easier on the brush.
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Post by nate001 on Apr 19, 2017 12:06:41 GMT -6
As a guy who has used a Mach 3 and edge shaving gel for about 10 years with no complaints, can you explain the benefits of the systems being described here? Is this just another hobby/thing to nerd out about, or is there some tangible advantage? I mean, the mach 3 cartridges are fairly expensive, sure, but I never cut myself and don't have to order brushes made from the scrotal hair of an ibex.
I ask this fully aware that this forum debates the merits of broken vs. left hand twill.
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Post by bentin on Apr 19, 2017 12:25:42 GMT -6
Cost is a big factor. It really does come back to 5-10 times cheaper than disposable blades. Also closeness of shave is probably a bigger factor for me. With a multi blade disposable, even with a shaving brush and good cream, I have pretty heavy five o'clock shadow by the afternoon. With a DE razor, I can get away with skipping a day here and there. It's a much closer shave.
It takes longer. You might lose some blood, moles or your nose. So there's that.
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Post by gaseousclay on Apr 19, 2017 12:39:51 GMT -6
yep, the financial savings alone were enough to convince me to switch to DE shaving. And as Bentin pointed out, the shave is much closer than a traditional disposable in my experience. I don't know what disposable cartridges are going for these days but I could probably buy a 100 pk of DE blades for the same amount and they'd last me for years. In fact, it's been approximately 5 yrs since I last bought DE blades and I know I still have a butt load left.
Disposables have their place but i'm drawn to the quality of DE products in the market. I started with a Merkur 33c, which I still have and use, but I'm also a fan of vintage Gillettes because of how well they're made. I will own my DE razors for life and pass them onto my son. I find it interesting that a lot of pre and post WW2 stuff is well made from a manufacturing perspective. I look at DE razors as being the Iron Heart of shaving (minus the hefty price tag).
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Post by gaseousclay on Apr 19, 2017 12:45:19 GMT -6
I will add that with DE shaving your initial startup investment might be in the $100 range depending on what you buy, but those items will pay for themselves in a short period of time. You could probably get away with spending under $100 if you bought an inexpensive DE razor, a sample pack of blades and a shaving cream or soap. The cost savings alone would allow you to buy more clothing from your favorite brands
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Post by ickes on Apr 19, 2017 12:47:44 GMT -6
As a guy who has used a Mach 3 and edge shaving gel for about 10 years with no complaints, can you explain the benefits of the systems being described here? Is this just another hobby/thing to nerd out about, or is there some tangible advantage? I mean, the mach 3 cartridges are fairly expensive, sure, but I never cut myself and don't have to order brushes made from the scrotal hair of an ibex. I ask this fully aware that this forum debates the merits of broken vs. left hand twill. I think for me it's a few reasons. Cost for one, as bentin stated. I've had facial hair for the past 5 years now so the only thing I'm shaving is my neck so a puck of soap and my shaving gear lasts me an extremely long time. Also, I have issues with persistent ingrown hairs on my neck and I think I remember reading that using a brush to apply the lather helps lift the hairs off the skin and eliminate ingrown hairs. I haven't eliminated them entirely but they do seem to be much less of a problem. Third, I have historically hated shaving/beard trimming but shaving this way has made it more enjoyable for sure. I simply like the whole process and it's almost relaxing in a way.
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Post by ickes on Apr 19, 2017 12:48:47 GMT -6
oh also as others have stated above, the shave does seem to be much closer.
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Post by nate001 on Apr 19, 2017 12:49:55 GMT -6
Compelling arguments, but I think I'll stick with my system. It's very predictable and my beard grows slowly. I usually go two to three days between shaves and it only starts looking kinda sorta shadowy by the third day.
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Post by DigDug on Apr 19, 2017 12:50:04 GMT -6
As a guy who has used a Mach 3 and edge shaving gel for about 10 years with no complaints, can you explain the benefits of the systems being described here? Is this just another hobby/thing to nerd out about, or is there some tangible advantage? I mean, the mach 3 cartridges are fairly expensive, sure, but I never cut myself and don't have to order brushes made from the scrotal hair of an ibex. I ask this fully aware that this forum debates the merits of broken vs. left hand twill. I bought a Merkur razor -$25 100 Derby blades - $10 Art of Shaving brush (wife bought) - $25? Been using this for over 3 years now and still have 20 blades. Keep it simple
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Post by DigDug on Apr 19, 2017 12:56:46 GMT -6
Also the shaving soap Last Forever. A $7 bowl of Proraso last 6 months give or take (can't really remember because I buy it so infrequently)
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Post by bentin on Apr 19, 2017 13:25:33 GMT -6
Yep, soaps and creams also last even longer with a decent shave brush. I get about fifteen to eighteen months out of a 4oz tub or around a year out of most bars. I do two passes but only lather the brush once.
I've been replacing blades every two weeks when I have a beard and every week when I don't, but suspect I could go longer for both scenarios.
I broke a Merkur head when I dropped it, replaced it with a Parker 98c that I gave to a friend and now use a Merkur Futur.
So razor is $55 and individual parts are available if my clumsiness kills something Parker silver tip shave brush was $60 100 Personna Med Prep blades are $30 and last two to four years A bar of Mike's Shave soap is $18 shipped and lasts about a year
A shower mirror was about $10.
Like others, I've lost track of how much multi blade disposables are. I buy a three pack every few years for business travel, but that's about it.
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Post by drewcandraw on Apr 19, 2017 14:23:38 GMT -6
lol my setup was way more expensive but it was because i bought like 5 or 6 razors all within two months to test which one i liked best. I finally bought an open comb in 2013 and use it here and there. It is pretty aggressive but I got lazy to shave daily or every couple of days. It does mow through my thick beard with the combs though. I replace my blades every 3-4 shaves and average a 2-3 pass on my face. I been using bic chromes (100 pack) and still been on that case for the last 2 years. There is one area near my neck where I can never get baby smooth as my hair grows in all different directions in that one section. I just get the closest I can in that area and leave it be. Playing around too much will irritate the area. yinzer don't have to go for bbs shaves in my opinion but a clean and smooth shave that works for ya.
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Post by ncbluegrass on Apr 20, 2017 8:19:52 GMT -6
growing my beard for several years made me downsize my shaving arsenal tremendously. I'm actually okay with that. Now that i've trimmed the beard down to a short length i'm having to maintain the neck and cheek lines so i'm back to regular shaving. I'm keeping it very simple which has made it so much easier.
Gillette Red Tip 1954 Feather Blades Edwin Jagger Super Badger brush Crabtree & Evelyn Sienna shave soap Speick or Aqua Velva aftershave
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Post by yinzer on Apr 24, 2017 15:51:49 GMT -6
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but I highly recommend Stirling Soap Company.
Just got some samples in, and at first I wasn't a fan but now I love every scent I got. They shaved so much better than my previous cream too. You get a pretty large sample puck for how cheap they all are.
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Post by ickes on Apr 25, 2017 13:36:20 GMT -6
while we are on this topic, I am running low on after shave and am looking for a new one. Any recommendations? My last bottle was a Sandalwood scent which I did like but maybe looking for something different.
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Post by bentin on Apr 25, 2017 13:41:18 GMT -6
Trumpers makes good, non alcohol ones in a lot of scents. They also make some pretty good alcohol based ones if you like the burn. Amazon and West Coast Shaving usually stock most of them.
Oops, non alcohol ones are called Skin Food.
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Post by drewcandraw on Apr 25, 2017 16:05:06 GMT -6
sometimes I just use some face lotion instead of after shave. Lavender witch hazel from thayers is another option I use.
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Post by bentin on Apr 25, 2017 16:13:05 GMT -6
Yeah, I just use Kiehls facial lotion with SPF stuff.
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