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Post by ickes on Jul 18, 2015 20:12:06 GMT -6
insert code here Now I realize why every joke I've made relating to Yoga and Roman has fallen flat, I thought all you guys knew about this. It's one of the things that make his motorcycle guy with pit bulls and guns posing so hilarious. I thought this was common knowledge amongst the forum members here as well.
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Post by variable on Jul 18, 2015 20:14:35 GMT -6
Maybe I just missed it. Would not be the first time.
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Post by davelewis on Jul 18, 2015 20:30:31 GMT -6
insert code here Now I realize why every joke I've made relating to Yoga and Roman has fallen flat, I thought all you guys knew about this. It's one of the things that make his motorcycle guy with pit bulls and guns posing so hilarious. I thought this was common knowledge amongst the forum members here as well. Hey Steve, I got it, and actually had a good laugh! You've gotta laugh at this shit, as its not worth crying over.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Jul 18, 2015 22:17:12 GMT -6
I read that article a while back. That is one of several businesses that Roman has started that I'm assuming has failed just like Lawless. If I'm not mistaken it's the same building. Yes the same and in fact that studio became the Lawless office upstairs.
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Post by youwinatlife on Jul 19, 2015 0:26:01 GMT -6
i've been away from the forum for the past two weeks (had a baby!) - but now i've caught up on all this crazy stuff ---- should i just request an order cancel/refund/get my bank to go for a credit card refund now...? i've got chinos and a shirt, and if my chinos custom options aren't happening, i don't want them (i asked for a custom leg opening width).
what do you guys reckon? sorry for the inane, boring, question.
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Post by youwinatlife on Jul 19, 2015 0:45:22 GMT -6
also, mega props to Dirty_Denim and orion23 for all of the insider info. i've been really hoping that we were all just hearing a lot of negative stuff and so it was exaggerating the actual situation. and i've sent numerous emails just to cheer the lawless crew on! but after hearing it all "Straight from the horses mouth" - and all the important announcement over instagram shenanigans - i'm really thinking a refund will sadly be my most/only satisfying option.
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Post by youwinatlife on Jul 19, 2015 3:40:23 GMT -6
... it's like 1am for all y'all and i just bit the bullet and made the decision i should have made months ago. i've put in a request via email to cancel and refund both my orders, the one for my custom chinos and oregon shirt (i was REALLY looking forward to that shirt, and was actually told directly that it was ready and "it would me mailed to me this week" - which was about six weeks ago now), and the surprise jeans for my wife.
is it crazy to feel a little bit guilty?
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Post by Griffin on Jul 19, 2015 4:37:05 GMT -6
Yes.
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Post by wildballs on Jul 19, 2015 4:56:29 GMT -6
Guess I will never see my two custom shirts in the 1300 and 2000 order numbers ! Should I try for a refund or is there any chance at all for them to be finished? What do you guys think?
Cheers Joakim
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Post by univibe88 on Jul 19, 2015 11:28:08 GMT -6
My friend got his shipping notice a couple days ago and the UPS tracking # shows that it shipped from Phoenix.
Order 1367 (11/29/2014): Men's Jeans (13.5 Candiani); Men's jeans (15 oz. Niphon Menpu Brown Weft Slub)
But I thought everything is being made in LA now?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 12:37:42 GMT -6
i got a shipping notice for something from phoenix. if i had to guess i'd say it's probably a jacket that was completed a while back but awaiting some other items for a combined shipment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 14:03:55 GMT -6
I think these shipments are likely coming from the big pile of completed stuff that Kahla or Sal mentioned was just sitting in AZ because cash flow was interfering with the ability to ship ie you can't ship/establish a credit account with usps like you can with ups.
I don't think the AZ location has any manufacturing capacity at this point.
Whatever the reason, I'm glad some folks are getting their gear. That's nice to hear.
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Post by jjflash on Jul 19, 2015 14:24:08 GMT -6
The "Surplus" jeans I've got coming (which are actually on the way!) came out of Phoenix as well.
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Post by wisdom on Jul 20, 2015 8:23:41 GMT -6
Anyone know if, by eliminating customization, Lawless is only doing a standard 5 pocket and no chino cuts, or if chino cuts are still being done?
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Jul 20, 2015 8:31:30 GMT -6
The "Surplus" jeans I've got coming (which are actually on the way!) came out of Phoenix as well. out of curiosity, when did you order those?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 8:46:39 GMT -6
I'm the only one without who received a shipping notification without a tracking number ? I'm a bit worried, now I'm 2 weeks waiting
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Post by bigblack on Jul 20, 2015 9:35:56 GMT -6
I'm the only one without who received a shipping notification without a tracking number ? I'm a bit worried, now I'm 2 weeks waiting if it makes you happy, I haven't received any type of notification and I'm #749
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 9:43:51 GMT -6
Wait so, LD definitely is going under?
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Post by exophobe on Jul 20, 2015 10:45:02 GMT -6
I'm the only one without who received a shipping notification without a tracking number ? I'm a bit worried, now I'm 2 weeks waiting On my last order I received a "prepared for shipment" email without a tracking number, and a "order shipped" email with a tracking number. I'm not sure why these are two stages, but I don't understand most of what Lawless does.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 11:16:19 GMT -6
If y'all have not read what Bryce wrote in the review thread..do it now..
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Post by jjflash on Jul 20, 2015 13:09:27 GMT -6
The "Surplus" jeans I've got coming (which are actually on the way!) came out of Phoenix as well. out of curiosity, when did you order those? June 29. According to UPS, they'll be here (Atlanta Metro) on Wednesday.
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Post by youwinatlife on Jul 21, 2015 16:19:38 GMT -6
update from my bank - they can't follow up my lawless chargeback as it has been over 90 days........
i held out so long because i felt like i was "supporting" the brand and stuff, and was just hopeful that they'd pull through, and everyone who wanted a refund or an item would get what they wanted.
but then i remembered that, oh yeah, they'd already gotten a whole bunch of free money off of kickstarter and i just bought a regular product on a regular website. plus i paid a bunch in shipping fees for stuff that will never get shipped - more free money. but none of this is news to any of you, of course!
you can actually check out lawless on youtube, and see a bunch of old videos that roman must have only posted very recently. one of the videos is called "mission challenges"... watching it, and listening to roman, it's sorta weird.
it all could have been so great. i wonder what things would be like right now if it all just went so well? half the content of this forum would be very different indeed!
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Post by exophobe on Jul 21, 2015 16:38:17 GMT -6
youwinatlife - they threw those videos on YouTube when they had the third (fourth?) website launch, when they said all was well and they had a couple runs of rtw. I think it's pretty clear that these rtw were made out of fabric already sold to other customers at this point, which makes the videos and assurances all the more unsettling.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Jul 21, 2015 16:57:24 GMT -6
youwinatlife - I think it's pretty clear that these rtw were made out of fabric already sold to other customers at this point, which makes the videos and assurances all the more unsettling. CORRECT !!!!!!
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Post by youwinatlife on Jul 21, 2015 17:44:15 GMT -6
... oh dear.
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